Rotary Car Club - SCAMMED by Mazport Scott (story from RX8club)

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thread has been reopened by Internet Brands.

so, no resolution came about and the thread was re-opened. Why is everyone praising IB?

Seems to me that this is a straight-cut SCAM. THere can only be one resolution. Scott pays back the balance of the parts he sold according to their FAIR market VALUE. A public apology and some sort of penalty for doing BAD BUSINESS along with the revision of the bill sent to STICK.

Scott owes him money....Stick DROVE his car into the Scott's shop and it never drove out 2 years later. MONEY IS OWED and knees are in danger!

How can anyone see both sides of the story and then say there was no resolution?? What's worse is everyone is praising IB for not doing anything.

I wonder what IB did with Scott?

My guess is IB did NOTHING!!

I also was surprised by the appraise of IB... First of all they shouldn't of closed down the thread.. They could of easily contacted IB during the so called conversation... Closing down for 5 days and then re open because of no resolution??? What is this??

I understand why Stick is hesitant about filing a suit as it could take time.. But I hope he hires a firm who would just rip one out of Mazsport. I would if it was me:) there are plenty of lawyers out there if you give 2/3 of your winning they will take the case.. Look at Gordon's... this case could reach 100+K:)

What the hell??? People are being weird...it's like they're advocating being kept in the dark when it comes to their community and their money.

I was really hoping IB would come back with something of substance when it came to this issue and I was shocked to read there was no resolution yet the rx8 guys/gal are all ok with that. I don't get it.

I hope he gets his car running well soon....I'd hate to be in his shoes. Waiting 2 years only to get half-assed work and still get charged for it.

Imma stop posting for a while....I may have pissed dome people off. I don't get the rx8peeps...they're mildly outraged over this yet they're just accepting things as they are.

More updates...

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Originally Posted by stickmantijuana

I have zero problem posting every single detail here.

Let me state again: Scott has no assets--I have no wiser options than this thread at this time.

As for Adrian, he did everything he could to help out on phone and e-mail, and I respect him highly for deciding to reopen the thread. I believe his reasons are quite simple. Adrian reopened this thread because after reviewing both sides of the story, he must have thought that this thread should remain open.

As for Scott, he says he sent me the following: radiator fans, driveshaft endlinks, and shifter linkage. I'll probably get them on the car this coming weekend to see if everything will fit. Once I do, I'll update with photos after I talk to Scott about his invoice, which is still the biggest problem.

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Originally Posted by stickmantijuana

btw, apparently Scott's been telling people that I'm the one responsible for driving the cost up by ordering bunch of shit for the engine.

Let me be clear.
1. Scott never gave me any option during the engine build process, and I just didn't know enough to request certain part over another.
2. Scott says he spent $2k on the guru shaft upon my request.
3. The story I had been told is this: Scott told me the original e-shaft was BROKEN, and that's why he went with the guru shaft. Keep in mind, Scott charged me over $5000 for the 20b short block anyway.
4. When I asked Scott I wanted the original e-shaft back as a souvenir, he said it was trashed.

Let me be also clear that Scott told me he also trashed the 20b oem housings and rotors because they were ALL damaged. He then went on and charged me hefty brand new Mazda retail price for all the 13b stuff.

So in the end, I was charged over $5000 20b shortblock with broken e-shaft, 3 broken housings, and 3 broken rotors. and I had to buy brand new 13b housing & rotors & seals, etc. etc. at Mazda listed retail price. I don't even know if they're actually new stuff--I'll update once I get the engine rebuilt.

I wrote this just so that some of you can have both sides of the story after talking with Scott on the phone and via private e-mails.

For more info, go here: http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.ph...24#post2693324

I guess IB did something... They made a phone call... Hmm.. Why not close down Mazsport's subforum?? Lock it down until they respond or do something?? Wait, i forgot that scammers don't get kicked out of forum:)

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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection (Post 53751)

Dammit Phil, if Icy has told you once he has told you a thousand times. Only those who hurt the community, like me, get kicked off the forums.

Sorry Kevin... I totally forgot about Icy's statement... LOL!

Ok, so what the hell happened with the world??

There must have been some sort of universal anomaly when 2007 turned into 2008 that surely sent me into bizarro world. A lot of weird things have been happening all year long...I mean, wtf??

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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection (Post 53749)

stick, if you need someone to look inside the engine and verify what is and is not there/new, feel free to let me know. I will do so for free, as someone with experience in spotting parts and building engines.

That is a stellar offer -

that's still an awesome offer

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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection (Post 53793)

Well, I guess I should clarify. I will examine the engine externally/through the ports for free, and I will tear it down and examine all the internals (should the buyer want) for free, but to reassemble it I will want at least a little bit in labor. But at least he will know what he has 100% that way, and it's still probably the best option unless he can do it himself (I get the feeling he has never built one before, and thus a custom 3 rotor would not be a good starting point to try his hand on). No use in paying some other shop a few grand to do the job again when I can do it for a couple hundred.

I make notes like these in my little black book of vendors... and that's who I tend to go to when I need something. Those who are willing to go that extra mile for their customers / are ethically and morally a good person.

Just to show some love to a wronged rotor-head; my shop is willing to do engine dyno tuning of the ECU for the price of the gas. I talked it over with the other owner the other day.