yea im gona bring the seats and the pipe at the same time...seats ill leave till there ready..the pipe ill probably wait for since im going to need that to finish the engine bay...and it has to get painted and what not :)

we still need to figure out what to do about those pesky seatbelts..grrrr lol

oh yea, had an amazing weekend :(
come home from work saturday to find i magically have 8 points on my license:

apparently whatever company my insurance used to do there annual check up had false information claiming that i had 8 points because of 2 tickets i got

the truth of the matter was those 2 tickets i had brought down to those tickets you get that are no points but you pay out the ass for(i call them get out of jail free cards lol)

what was worse though was apparently the company cant even count because even if the DMV did mess up the 2 tickets still wouldnt add up to 8 points, one was a 5 over speeding ticket(2 pts) the other was a failure to obey traffic signals(2 pts)....so...yea

the real kicker.....because of the false info, my insurance company jacked up my yearly payments for both cars from 1800 to 3900!!!!!!!

luckily i sorted it all out today...but i think im going to drive 10mph for a while lol

but if your serious about the open DP ill do it lol i dont really care....its not like i can boost yet with zero miles on the engine and clutch lol, im positive hondas will still be 1000000000 times louder then me anyways hahaha

Damn man, that blows. The insurance that I have doesn't check my license with the DMV when it's time for renewal. It's this great little thing called the Platnium Discount. It's not really a discount, the actuaries figure it out such that you pay a small fee over what the normal policy is, but they don't run your license. Basically spreading the risk of not checking the license for people that haven't had tickets in a while. It was funny as hell, You've got a discount!! COOL! wait, why is it more expensive? :scratch: Whatever

If you want to come open DP that's cool with me, I would just be worried about the backfires catching shit on fire. We've got plenty of time to piss off my neighbor ;) If you're gonna wait on the charge pipe, we're gonna have to meet @ Alex's, about 10 minutes north of me. We moved my 450lb welder to his place to take care of some stuff. Kinda nice to have it out of the garage, but when I start doing the fuel cell, I'll have to do all the welding there, and then drive to my shop to fit. Meh, alot of back and forth but not too bad.


So, I got half the undercarriage cleaned tonight.. woo!!!! clean the other half tomorrow and probably flip her right side up and wash the bottom, and strip the harnesses and then have at the bottom of my car with a plasma cutter, die grinder, 4.5" grinder etc etc etc..... oh how I LOVE metal work :D Just wish it wasn't to a finish painted car :wallbash:

noice!! making some killer progress, my engine will definetly be in by the end of this weekend if it kills me!!!

and though i have no clue since ive never done it before, i cant imagine i would get much backfiring not driving past 3k rpms..but who knows....

It depends on how the map is. When I first started my car last year the bumper was black after a 20 minute easy drive. Better to be safe than on fire.

65 days to go :D

Pretty nuts progress man. I was wondering if you have plans for the Rotiserie? Meaning the dimensions etc..I need to build one for a few projects I have coming up.

The use of proper jack points is greatly understated . Sorry for the extra work involved fixing that crap.

HelgHast7: FWIW- Insurance companies can add different point values for tickets than your states DMV does. They also hold them longer;) Here in NC alot of our traffic clients have run into this. It gives us a whole new field of practice in going back to old tickets and reducing them to eliminate insurance hitting you so hard. Not sure if NJ attorneys can go back into old cases or not but it may be worth checking into with a local lawyer.

Dave

I plan on getting my car painted in the next year or so i just don't have the room to do something like that...or the know how :lol: Maybe sometime later.

Don't have any plans for the rotrisserie, Alex actually built it. I can easily pull a few measurements for you if ya like and get some detailed pics. The problem is going to be making it universal and still having it with the roof as close tot he ground as possible. Meaning, the measurement I give you from the pvot point to the floor will onlt definately work with an FC, might need to adjust it for the FB or an FD.

Next time the comp makes it to the garage I'll get some measurements and a few pics for ya.

-Brian

If I could do it again I would definately do the undercoating before the paint. My biggest fear is some of the shit is gonna run into the paint or I'm going to damage it somehow. Not a fun feeling by any stretch of the imagination. For you though Tyler, you've got a CA car so you shouldn't have nearly as many problem spots as I do. Unless of course the PO was a moron like mine and destroyed the "jack points." :rolleyes: I still haven't put up the money shot :rofl:
My car spent her first 9 years in VT, claimed it was stored for the winter in a garage but if there was no vapor barrier, it might as well be outside, concrete is fine, but some of the garages in VT are just a barn built on a mudpuddle. It would be easy enough, just time consuming, to get under the car, strip the suspension, drop the tank and the lines, go hog wild cleaning, and then roll the undercoating/bedliner on. If I didn't have any repairs to make that's what I would've done. It's all the welding and cutting and cleaning and grinding nad plasmaing and etc etc etc you get the point that is just much MUCH easier and quicker of the car is upsidedown like this

i understand what your saying, and we have something similar to that...however

in my case it was just whatever company my insurance used to get the license info from, had completely false information

i already got it fixed monday, told my insurance to get my drivers abstract, which they did...

they called me back a couple hours later like..."ohhh....we fucked up....sorry"

64 more days to go and all I got done today was to finish striping all the heavy nasty grime and dirt off. Tomorrow we're getting hammered by snow so the plan is to get her flipped right side up and strip out the harnesses, then get under the car while she right side up with some hot water, joy, and a stiff bristle brush and clean one more time. Flip upside down and dry. Hopefully I'll have all the repairs and prep done by the end of the weekend. Then I can get the shop up to 75* in Feb and roll the liner on. I'd LOVE to see her on the jackstands by early next week. Still have a bunch of harness work to do and the interior coating......... FUCK!!!! I need to do the RX8 seat mounts before the undercoating goes on.... damn.... hopefully I can get that done tomorrow as well.

Got the big 7" diameter pipe for the surge tank today :D Just waiting on my Bosch mount and some fuel hose and fittings and we can get into the fuel cell hardcore :D I'm liking working on it while it's upside down. Kinda refreshing and frightening at the same time.

:12::smilielol5::cuss: :suspect:

you better be careful throwing statements like that around, theres alot of people on here, like me, that will call you out on that end end up getting a whole car painted for 100 bucks from you

When it comes to craftsmanship, you get what you pay for. I'm not cheap, you are..... where do we go from here?

Abdul needs some body work before Deals right?

Holy shit Brian you have been busy!!!

You make me nervous...I have always used the pinch welds for jacking points....I am a bad man. I went and looked at my undercarriage and they are clean as a wistle(Cali car and never driven in bad weather, there or here in Montana. Regardless I have moved my jack stands to where they belong. :)

How difficult is the installation of that Traction Control system? Just curious to how you would set-up that monitoring system.

I'm going with the MoTeC traction control Multiplexer, the TCMux. With the M"hundred series" you can wire the signals directly to the ECU IFF they are hall effect signals. If they're a mag signal like the stock ABS system is, they need to be converted to a Hall Effect signal. MoTeC has the converters, one per axle. In my case though, I have 4 digital inputs, right now one is wheel speed off the driveshaft, one is low sump, and the other low 2-stroke. Becuase I don't want to give up the low level warnings (I could with a simple LED light, but want them to trigger an RPM limit if they do go off) I needed the TCMux. It takes all the signals and converts them to a coded signal that the ECU sees. From that it gets wheel speed, both driven and rolling, calculates slip, and activates or doesn't activate the traction control.

The Traction Control itself can be setup anyway you want it to. Ignition retard, fuel cut, hard cut, boost dump etc etc. In our case, can't really use ignition retard becuase it'll melt turbo's, fuel cut is a bad idea, hard cut can get dangerous so I'll be using the boost dump. I suspect that the boost dump won't do everthing that I want it to. So I may be changing to a DBW which is definately the way to go. The ECU senses the slip and backs the throttle off for you. Can't get much better than that.

The problem that us rotary guys have is the way the earlier MOP's work, it's a feedback system (which is better than the renni's non-feedback system) and the ECU just doesn't have the outputs to run two basic DBW systems. So if I do go the DBW route, I may need to get MoTeC's DBW-4 which is a CAN commincation setup, or ditch my MOP and run a DBW setup and save whatever the DBW-4 expense is. But this is next winter stuff :D

I will tell you now though that the FD will be a DBW system, and I won't be running the OMP on that motor, so I'll probably ditch the OMP on the FC as well.

As long as you're using the factory jack on the pinch welds you're good to go. The factory jack doesn't put any weight on the seems, it uses the seems to keep it from slipping off. It's when shops use them for lifts, and home guys use their floor jacks that you run into problems like the disaster that I'm dealing with. I'm actually heading outside shortly to get back at the FC. Undercarriage is completely clean so it's time to flip her over and strip all the harnesses out, then wash the underside..... and the floors after I'm done :rofl:

64 days....... wow.... need to stay busy

64 days to go and we've hit rock bottom
 

Got a bunch more done tonight and we've turned the corner. Everything has been stripped and cleaned. I'm hoping that the repairs will be done by the end of the weekend and the herculiner will be on too. I think that's a little ambitious but we'll see.

So the FC is shiny side up again but man is she looking bare. The only things left on the car are the woper motor, the MoTeC and the fuel filter :smilielol5:

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Your car looks as good as always Brian, can't wait to see the fabrications you come up with for the FD.

Are you taking the cage out to spray the LS?

Thanks Tyler, as soon as the FC is done we're rolling the FD in for the same treatment as the FC is getting now. I really just want her clean and one color, then I'll start all the fab work and welding, then reprime, undercoating, lizard skin, etc etc. I'd LOVE to have her done in a year..... we'll see.

Definately, gotta take the base plates off for the herculiner and I'm always one to remove a part rather than tape it off. I've found it takes about the same time but by taking it off you remove the chance of overspray and get better coverage..... kind of a no brainer in my eyes.

Hey Brian,

Thanks for the offer of pics and measurements on the rotisiree. Whenever you get a chance to do that it would be great. No rush, you have enough on your hands.:D I think it will be a good height for all three gens. Both the FB and FD bodies appear to be shorter from rockers to roof visually than the FC. I can always modify the original design.

Dave

Does Kirky have a part # on that bolt in cage for the FC or was it simply made to order? I'm still probably going the autopower 6 point mainly so I can add door bars to fulfill the requirement, but I love the connection in the rear and the x brace.... the added trans tunnel bar is a good idea too....

engines going back in this weekend! wish me luck lol

No worries Dave, glad to help out. I was actually planning on grabbing them today but I got work from my buddy that we're heading up to ME to pick up his Landi...... WOOT!!!! Another 14 hr road trip and one mkore project!!!! I'm up to 5!
My FC, FD, boat,
Alex's FC
Buddies boat
and now the Landi will be here for a few tweaks before my buddy head off to live outt that thing for a month.... sweet! This is the motivation I needed to start cranking into thoat 36hr work days :D

Kirk had a few part numbers and options. When I spoke with them they didn't have something perfect for me. I had them build me their bolt in hoop as a weld in piece, then I bought their weld in full cage kit (yeah I know but I was hoping) When I got it I installed the hoop and welded the x-bars up in a weld in style, but made them bolt in, then I added the trans braces myself... had to order some extra material for them. The cage put the front kickers WAY to close to my head, found this out after I tacked it in so I just cut them out. The dash brace actually turned into my front bumper support and the door bars are being used for Alex's front bumper support. Kirk is great, they'll work with you.

Good luck man! Gimme a shout if you've got any questions.

Ah - good to know on the cage. I knew it looked custom but the bolted in factor was throwing me...

thanks Brian

hopefully things should go smoothly...but im sure your going to end up getting a call anyways lol

looking good hope to see it soon

Yeah, I just can't leave anything alone can I :rofl:

Kirks a great co, they worked with me alot to get what I wanted. For the FD Alex and I are going to build a bender and build a bar ourselves for it. I want something that I can weld into the chassis with gussets, yet still have the interior removeable, serviceable, and looking good..... we'll see if that is all even possible. Gotta ge the FC done and with the Landi we picked up today, it's gonna be a 4 day thrash to get that done so my buddy can get outta dodge and head down to the Everglades for a month. Now I'm hoping to get the FC rolling again before NEXT weekend is over..... sigh...

No worries, Dave, I got your txt today but I was driving the whole time and BB'ing while driving has gotten me in trouble in the past... you'll have a txt in a few min.

Thanks Kyle, hoping to be there before 3/15 but we'll see how that goes. How's the moving going? and my rear/tranny?

lol no biggie im not in any rush, not like i can use it yet lol, i just like having all the parts i need at once so i dont have to go searching when i need it

hell dave still has my PFC...kinda getting a bit worried with that since i am getting close to needing that

not sure where daves at on your trans an rear......moving is going slow...the snow really killed us this week

Yeah I know what you mean about having parts.... I ordered a ton that I don't need quite yet. I wouldn't worry at all about Dave, he always comes through ;)

No worries, I know you guys are getting stressed and I bet the snow fucked you royally...... how much did you guys end up getting?

28 inches about more or less in some areas

DAMN!!! Sorry Kyle, that blows..... We got about a foot and it fucked me pretty well, 2.5x's that must've altered plans quite a bit.

Kyle huh - I have yet to meet you at Dave's place. You'll be seeing me soon enough, lol... any move thats closer to VA is good for me :)


Brian, get moving on that landi so I can see your interior coating! 48 hour run is a cake walk ;)


Serious ? though... what are you doing for jack points on your FC? I'm considering adding jack pads to mine so that once the car is done and sitting low with side skirt I can easily get a jack under it, locked in and lifted quick! Benz and BMW (i think) started doing jacking pads several years ago and I would love to integrate something similar.... you are more of the fab guy so I'd be intersted to see/hear your thoughts on it....

Hell yeah get moving on it..... We want to get it done by Wed. Assuming the parts get here in time, should be no problem.

The seems I am reenforcing..... ha! OK, one I am reinforcing, the other three I am rebuilding, strengthening the center of them as well and yes, I am adding jackpads to the front. The rear doesn't need them, you have the subframe and the diff to jack from. The front I was planning on making the pad far forward where the center "framerail" meets the engine bay "framerail" If yo ulook under the car you'll see what I mean. I was planning on doing this anyway then when I started cleaning I discovered that the rust had crept under the undercoating and rotted that seem out. So what was intended to be a little bonus, is now something that needs to be done :banghead: There won't be any locking points so to speak, just a nice flat 3/16" steel pad.

Exactly - I know just what you're talking about and thats the same location I was thinking of adding mine (only on front... agree that the rear is overkill and not needed)...

Well you guys, my FC is dead. Spun rotor bearing :(

Guess I won't bring it to DGRR :(

Any of you crackheads need parts, thinking of parting it out.

well so far so good, tomorrow morning im finishing up the harness and droping the engine in

Say it isn't so!!

I've got bearings and e-shafts if you want/need.... like shipping plus buy me a beer or 14 :rofl:

So aside from the MAP, how'd everything else go? What's next?


Aight..... for all of y'all that have been asking about the rotisserie..... I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY IF THE CAR FALLS AND CRUSHES YOU, YOUR FOOT, OR YOUR SOUL!!!!

anywho.... here are some pics of measurements because well, a pic is worth a 1000 words.

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Soooooomewhat productive weekend. Over the course of the last 13 years all the wiring that I have done hasn't really voided the factory harnesses.... all that went out the window Saturday morning when I sliced into the front harness and rewired sooooo many things. Spliced into the fuse block too for things that I've added and mooched off Alex's spare harness for a few pins to wire things strait to the battery that need power with it's off - Alarm, radio mem, PDL, PW. Also bought a new Clifford Alarm with remote start thats going in :D

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still need to get an after shot


Then I went after finishing up the mounting for the RX8 seats........ still a PITA btw. I think Todd has the right idea to mount those eff'ers.

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Then went back over the chassis looking for rot and found one more place.... here are the worst of the spots..... ugh..... gotta get hoping on these repairs damnit.... 60 days to go and I keep finding more and more work :banghead:

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