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Force13b 02-14-2011 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by My5ABaby (Post 140309)
Ah, the BAW thread(s). I looked once, thought it was stupid, and never looked back. :ugh2:

:willy_nilly:

You just need to believe in the love that exists between 2 dudes and you'll fit right in

TitaniumTT 02-14-2011 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Force13b (Post 140305)
I use a 3bar GM Map sensor. I don't even know what an Emap sensor is that some fancy Motec thing?

Exhaust
Manifold
Absolute
Pressure

Talk to Glennypoo about it... as I'm assuming he's the one that talked you into the FPSI

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Originally Posted by My5ABaby (Post 140309)
Ah, the BAW thread(s). I looked once, thought it was stupid, and never looked back. :ugh2:

Bite your tongue, it can be quite fun.

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Originally Posted by Force13b (Post 140312)
:willy_nilly:

You just need to believe in the love that exists between 2 dudes and you'll fit right in


Force13b 02-14-2011 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 140333)
Exhaust
Manifold
Absolute
Pressure

Talk to Glennypoo about it... as I'm assuming he's the one that talked you into the FPSI

Again with the acronyms. I'm guessing FPSI is fuel pressure and actually he didn't. When i setup my fuel system i got done setting the 40psi at idle and shut the hood and thought lota good that gauge does. Did some reading found the pick up and ran some wires.

As for EMAP i honestly don't know what that would do for me. Enlighten me o mighty one. As long as i can get a 0-5v pickup i'm sure i could wire it into the haltech

diabolical1 02-14-2011 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Force13b (Post 139841)
The FD's stock plastic door handles suck big floppy donkey dick.

:D why don't you go for broke and say how you REALLY feel about them?

TitaniumTT 02-15-2011 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Force13b (Post 140357)
Again with the acronyms. I'm guessing FPSI is fuel pressure and actually he didn't. When i setup my fuel system i got done setting the 40psi at idle and shut the hood and thought lota good that gauge does. Did some reading found the pick up and ran some wires.

As for EMAP i honestly don't know what that would do for me. Enlighten me o mighty one. As long as i can get a 0-5v pickup i'm sure i could wire it into the haltech

Acrynoms are good... get up on them YLCSP :rofl:

EMAP is nice for tuning for a few reasons.... specifically for you and I, it allows us to see a better place to run the transition. There comes a point when the EMAP gets so high the turbo's are basically a cork in the exhaust killing power. Using the EMAP to set the transition allows for tuning a smoother one.

EMAP is also nice for tuning timing and you can use it to trim fuel while cruising.... but that's fancy Motec shit

My EMAP sensor is the same as yours and my MAP sensor, just plumbed differently

Force13b 02-15-2011 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 140395)
Acrynoms are good... get up on them YLCSP :rofl:

EMAP is nice for tuning for a few reasons.... specifically for you and I, it allows us to see a better place to run the transition. There comes a point when the EMAP gets so high the turbo's are basically a cork in the exhaust killing power. Using the EMAP to set the transition allows for tuning a smoother one.

EMAP is also nice for tuning timing and you can use it to trim fuel while cruising.... but that's fancy Motec shit

My EMAP sensor is the same as yours and my MAP sensor, just plumbed differently

Acronyms sucks i work for a DoD contractor i hear enough of them at work.

I'm not sequential so i don't have a transition. But i see what your saying. So you run a basic 3bar GM MAP but run what a braided line from your DP into it?

Force13b 02-15-2011 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by diabolical1 (Post 140388)
:D why don't you go for broke and say how you REALLY feel about them?

I could have gone with suck 90yr old saggy testicles

TitaniumTT 02-15-2011 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Force13b (Post 140430)
Acronyms sucks i work for a DoD contractor i hear enough of them at work.

I'm not sequential so i don't have a transition. But i see what your saying. So you run a basic 3bar GM MAP but run what a braided line from your DP into it?

Why bother with twins if they're non-sequential? I've been there and yeah its smooth, but damn that kick in the ass <2.5k is awesome

Running EMAP in the DP could be useful info, but it wouldn't help with the tuning aspect of it, the line needs to be pre-turbo. I've got an SS 1/8" to -3 adapter threaded into the manifold. From there I've got 2' of SS brake line. At the end of that is a female -3. Then 8" of -3 braided with a male crimped on one end, and a female on the other. The MAP sensor is mounted in a billet mount threaded for 1/8" npt, so you just thread your adapter in there and the braided line screws on. The nipple on the actual sensor presses into an o-ring in the mount, trick little piecem eliminates all the fluctuations and shit you get from vaccuum tubing and the chances of the line getting pierced or blowing off are basically nill.

lt1_fd3s 02-15-2011 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 140439)
Why bother with twins if they're non-sequential? I've been there and yeah its smooth, but damn that kick in the ass <2.5k is awesome

sequential is fine... as long as you never spool the 2nd turbo... but after you play above 4000 (4500??) WOT, one turbo between 2500 -> 4000 (4500??) is just lag!!!

and of course, if you happen to be partial throttle... because, i dont know, you're playing in the mountains, you hit the tranisition point of the turbos and you don't have enough exhaust flow so you go from 7-8 lbs on one turbo to 0 LBS! on both turbos..and the car falls on its face...

and let's not even talk about what happens when your in the middle of a curve and the 2nd turbo decides it's time to spool!!! previous owner's hubby got a little scared when i did that... twice...

Force13b 02-15-2011 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 140439)
Why bother with twins if they're non-sequential? I've been there and yeah its smooth, but damn that kick in the ass <2.5k is awesome

Running EMAP in the DP could be useful info, but it wouldn't help with the tuning aspect of it, the line needs to be pre-turbo. I've got an SS 1/8" to -3 adapter threaded into the manifold. From there I've got 2' of SS brake line. At the end of that is a female -3. Then 8" of -3 braided with a male crimped on one end, and a female on the other. The MAP sensor is mounted in a billet mount threaded for 1/8" npt, so you just thread your adapter in there and the braided line screws on. The nipple on the actual sensor presses into an o-ring in the mount, trick little piecem eliminates all the fluctuations and shit you get from vaccuum tubing and the chances of the line getting pierced or blowing off are basically nill.

Because i couldn't afford a single at the time :lol:

I don't know if i'm sophisticated enough to pull something like that off. Perhaps something i'll look into when i get to single turboing the car

TitaniumTT 02-15-2011 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lt1_fd3s (Post 140442)
sequential is fine... as long as you never spool the 2nd turbo... but after you play above 4000 (4500??) WOT, one turbo between 2500 -> 4000 (4500??) is just lag!!!

and of course, if you happen to be partial throttle... because, i dont know, you're playing in the mountains, you hit the tranisition point of the turbos and you don't have enough exhaust flow so you go from 7-8 lbs on one turbo to 0 LBS! on both turbos..and the car falls on its face...

and let's not even talk about what happens when your in the middle of a curve and the 2nd turbo decides it's time to spool!!! previous owner's hubby got a little scared when i did that... twice...


I dunno what you're talking about... I never once had those problems playing in the mountains. If you're a good little boy I'll let you play too ;)

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Originally Posted by Force13b (Post 140447)
Because i couldn't afford a single at the time :lol:

I don't know if i'm sophisticated enough to pull something like that off. Perhaps something i'll look into when i get to single turboing the car

Piece of cake man, when it's time, lemme know.... very easy to do

lt1_fd3s 02-15-2011 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 140450)
I dunno what you're talking about... I never once had those problems playing in the mountains. If you're a good little boy I'll let you play too ;)

guess you were going too slow and are too low in your RPMs to have it be an issue =]

Force13b 02-15-2011 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 140450)
Piece of cake man, when it's time, lemme know.... very easy to do

Will do. Hopefully the haltech will have enough input spots for all this...and don't even say go Motec a 5k ecu is not an option :lol:
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Originally Posted by lt1_fd3s (Post 140461)
guess you were going too slow and are too low in your RPMs to have it be an issue =]

OH SNAP!

TitaniumTT 02-15-2011 07:17 PM

Do an M84... its only a $2500 ecu :rofl:

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Originally Posted by lt1_fd3s (Post 140461)
guess you were going too slow and are too low in your RPMs to have it be an issue =]

Pffffft.... maybe I just didn't need boost to keep up with you :p

lt1_fd3s 02-15-2011 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 140480)
Pffffft.... maybe I just didn't need boost to keep up with you :p

i was on bald tires... and doing the speed limit because i dont like giving $$ to TN...


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