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Rotary_Rocket_87 04-17-2008 03:45 PM

Sorry, what I was trying to imply is that the OP could talk to someone there and get some advice.

MaczPayne 04-18-2008 02:25 AM

Unless you can find a way to retain all the thermal energy contained in the exhaust, you'll lose it as heat through the ultra-long manifold leading to the remote-mounted turbo. Not a very efficient design IMO.

My5ABaby 04-18-2008 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MaczPayne (Post 18993)
Unless you can find a way to retain all the thermal energy contained in the exhaust, you'll lose it as heat through the ultra-long manifold leading to the remote-mounted turbo. Not a very efficient design IMO.

Hmmm. If it's going to be run from the bin area then I would think you could insulate the intercooler piping with the exhaust piping somehow.

$100T2 04-18-2008 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MaczPayne (Post 18993)
Unless you can find a way to retain all the thermal energy contained in the exhaust, you'll lose it as heat through the ultra-long manifold leading to the remote-mounted turbo. Not a very efficient design IMO.

I realize the design isn't as efficient as an underhood mounted turbo, but what I'm looking for is a way to add a turbo to an NA without all the underhood work required. I'm not looking to make huge power, I'm looking to run 5 -7 pounds of boost to give the car more pep.

firzen 04-18-2008 07:43 PM

If you put it in the bin area, it's gonna get crazy hot in there- and you'll have to cut through a fair amount of metal...

If my memory serves, I've seen this kind of mod done on an Infiniti sedan somewhere on the nicoforums. I'll look through there and maybe find the link to that thread... But IIRC, it was a ginormous turbo and the piping seemed too long and unnecessary.

MaczPayne 04-19-2008 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by $100T2 (Post 19024)
I realize the design isn't as efficient as an underhood mounted turbo, but what I'm looking for is a way to add a turbo to an NA without all the underhood work required. I'm not looking to make huge power, I'm looking to run 5 -7 pounds of boost to give the car more pep.

Gotcha. So what's your plan so far? The turbine section will have to mate with the exhaust flow somehow, and that requires some fabrication. I have an image in my head right now, but I'm not sure if it's the same as yours.

Max777 04-20-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by My5ABaby (Post 18434)
Damn I'm good. Could you duct pipes/air for an intercooler back there? :p


one of the points of the remote turbo setup is the fact that you DONT need an intercooler!

The length of the pressure side pipe may seem like a lot, but in reality it is actually SHORTER than a FMIC setup, AND there is no need for one.

Second, there is no real need for almost ANY exhaust, you can run a header, an straight pipe to the turbo, and then a short straight pipe right out and to the atmoshpere.

The fintake pipe will most likely be the big problem, and you will need to mount it out of the way of water, which probably means putting it inside?

From what I remember reading on some thread, the oil cooling is also done separately in some cases.

That's about all I learned about it. Sounded stupid to me at first, then I read some thread about how it really isnt as bad as you would think, and while Im enlightened, im still never considering it...


I think a comprex supercharger would be cooler.

Boostmaniac 04-21-2008 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Max777 (Post 19516)

I think a comprex supercharger would be cooler.

Yes, not to mention more sensible if all you are looking for is pep vs. big power.

Max777 05-11-2008 09:01 PM

lol

I take it you read "That" too, huh? :D

TehMonkay 05-12-2008 01:40 PM

Why on an FC?

Phoenix7 05-12-2008 02:12 PM

1. where would it be mounted? THe bin doesn't seem right to me. And there isn't much room in the exhaust system. Too far back and it's stupid close to the fuel tanks too far forward and it's like mounting a stock TII turbo.

2. piping and custom work. Where is there enough room to mount the turbo, piping, wastegate, etc., etc.?


3. Bad weather. Would the turbo or HOT pipes be damaged by COLD water on the ground after a storm/rain? Imagine full boost into a puddle of cold water.

4. Oil/water cooling? Where will the reservoirs be (bins?)? oil/water pumps would be necessary to plumb in it's own cooling system. Unless you use the stock oiling system (will there be enough pressure in the system to make it work?).


I've followed this thread since the beginning but didn't post since I'm not a fan of these setups.

http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1473169/i/Misc/hot_turbo2_ezr.JPG
"Actual photo of how hot a traditional front-mounted turbo can get. You do not want this near critical plastic and electrical components in the engine bay, or mounted under or near your feet causing significant driver and passenger discomfort."

SO they decided to install them next to the plastic vette fuel tanks??


Where, under the FC, can you set this up:
http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1473169/i/ls1_c...maro-pipes.jpg
http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1473169/i/musta...Turbo-View.jpg

Max777 05-12-2008 04:41 PM

i like how both pics have solid axle cars, and I also totally agree with you, phoenix, (but dont let it get to your head.) :D

Phoenix7 05-12-2008 07:59 PM

they have a 350Z that claims a 120hp increase but no setup pics. :dunno:

Ender 05-12-2008 09:12 PM

Ok seriously, if you mount the turbo even just 4 feet from the block do you realize how wicked your lag will be?

Phoenix7 05-12-2008 09:21 PM

no. I haven't thought about lag yet. Tell me more.


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