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TitaniumTT 05-23-2011 08:08 AM

Mazdatrix

infernosg 05-23-2011 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tweiss3 (Post 149797)
MT?

I assume MazdaTrix.

I don't have my wiring diagram handy but is the neutral switch also connected to the ignition switch (i.e. can't start car w/o clutch depressed)?

tweiss3 05-23-2011 08:09 AM

Ugh, cali shipping FTL

tweiss3 05-23-2011 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by infernosg (Post 149799)
I assume MazdaTrix.

I don't have my wiring diagram handy but is the neutral switch also connected to the ignition switch (i.e. can't start car w/o clutch depressed)?

The neutral switch isn't the same as the clutch switch, cause you can start the car in gear as long as the clutch is depressed. The neutral switch is in the transmission, and the clutch switch is under the dash i believe.

TitaniumTT 05-23-2011 08:28 AM

You are correct. If the clutch switch fails, you cannot start the car. If the clutch switch is out of adjustment, you can't start the car. They're good to have though, even though mine is bypassed for the bump start and the remote start, but that's why I have the neutral safety switch. If the neutral safety switch fails, neither the remote start or the bump start will work.

FRED 05-23-2011 08:57 AM

It's the interlock switch at the top of the clutch pedal thats in the start circuit. The lower clutch switch is for ECU information and cruise cut if installed.

tweiss3 05-23-2011 09:10 AM

Well here is the question. My car almost never idles, i let it idle for maybe 60 seconds before hitting the road, and my commutes are almost all highway. If i just put in the broken switch till next week when i get the new one, will that be ok? I won't have any detrimental effects, other than possibly worse mileage when i do stop at a light for 40 seconds?

My5ABaby 05-23-2011 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 149803)
You are correct. If the clutch switch fails, you cannot start the car. If the clutch switch is out of adjustment, you can't start the car. They're good to have though, even though mine is bypassed for the bump start and the remote start, but that's why I have the neutral safety switch. If the neutral safety switch fails, neither the remote start or the bump start will work.

Or if you have an '86 you just don't have a clutch switch.

TitaniumTT 05-23-2011 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRED (Post 149804)
It's the interlock switch at the top of the clutch pedal thats in the start circuit. The lower clutch switch is for ECU information and cruise cut if installed.

Yes, but top of the clutch means the clutch must be on the floor for the circuit to close. If you put the clutch in, crank it and then lift the clutch slightly, the circuit opens and powewr to the starter is cut. Opposite holds true for the lower switch. Rest your foot on the clutch pedal with the cruise working and there is a chance it'll cut out.

TitaniumTT 05-23-2011 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweiss3 (Post 149805)
Well here is the question. My car almost never idles, i let it idle for maybe 60 seconds before hitting the road, and my commutes are almost all highway. If i just put in the broken switch till next week when i get the new one, will that be ok? I won't have any detrimental effects, other than possibly worse mileage when i do stop at a light for 40 seconds?

No, it'll be fine.

tweiss3 05-23-2011 09:38 AM

Sounds like a plan then

TitaniumTT 05-23-2011 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by My5ABaby (Post 149806)
Or if you have an '86 you just don't have a clutch switch.

You guys and your weird ass '86s

tweiss3 05-23-2011 10:15 AM

on a related note, its a hell of a lot harder putting the trans back in yourself than it is taking it out yourself

tweiss3 05-24-2011 08:28 AM

And done, she is much smoother now

infernosg 05-24-2011 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweiss3 (Post 149801)
The neutral switch isn't the same as the clutch switch, cause you can start the car in gear as long as the clutch is depressed. The neutral switch is in the transmission, and the clutch switch is under the dash i believe.

Ugh, realized this shortly after I posted. Is it Memorial Day yet?
Quote:

Originally Posted by tweiss3 (Post 149883)
on a related note, its a hell of a lot harder putting the trans back in yourself than it is taking it out yourself

And done, she is much smoother now

Wow, with a lift and two other people it took me 4 hours to get a new transmission installed on my FC. The splines on the input shaft just didn't want to mesh with those in the clutch


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