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project86 03-10-2011 10:50 PM

wise response.....
:94:

FC3S Murray 03-11-2011 09:04 PM

lol good stuff.

I tried to kick the motor over tonight but I keep popping my 140AMP Circuit breaker before my battery. My redtop battery is fully charged but it just seems like it doesnt have the muster to turn it over.

chibikougan 03-11-2011 09:10 PM

Hmmm what amp fuse does the Vette camaro etc have? Also I am coming over right now. Haha

Battery cables backwards on the starter? That was the only way I ever popped that sucker

lh6601 03-11-2011 09:46 PM

Damn nice build sir. Glad you're sticking with the chassis. I don't give a shit about chevy engines personally, but you can't argue with results. A fast car is a fast car. I hope to see it running soon!

TitaniumTT 03-12-2011 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray (Post 143181)
lol good stuff.

I tried to kick the motor over tonight but I keep popping my 140AMP Circuit breaker before my battery. My redtop battery is fully charged but it just seems like it doesnt have the muster to turn it over.

Car is trying to tell you something :beatdeadhorse5:



Check all your grounds

barnett87rx7 03-12-2011 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray (Post 89055)
I got a hold of a cherry picker today...needless to say I am pretty damn stoked! I refuse to buy one because that is just wishing for bad joo joo.
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w.../GARAGE011.jpg


I almost don't want to rip into her...she is still driveable and the weather is PERFECt now. Fuck!

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w.../GARAGE006.jpg

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w.../GARAGE008.jpg

Pic of the new house. Got it for a great price and is a wonderful home for our daughter. The FC better not break again or it is going to be sold because this S.O.B is gonna take ALL my time..


http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w.../GARAGE002.jpg


Pics will be up soon of the surgery


Congrats on the super clean fc ... but in reality 16yr olds own fc's the real congrats are on the house

FC3S Murray 03-17-2011 10:28 PM

POSTED A COUPLE DAYS AGO:

Soooo another day of f*ing around and sorry, no start up vid yet. I plan on trying tomorrow since I will have 3 hours free in the garage YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

Since I couldnt start it tonight due to my baby boy going to sleep at 6:30 and his room being right above the garage. Open headers would make him poop his diaper! However i did get some things done tonight:

Installed 2 grounds that I should have in the first place(other ground is on driverside). This fixed my cranking issue.:
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...rleebob021.jpg

Installed my Norris motorsports PCV catch can. Great product and nice qaulity:
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...rleebob024.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...rleebob022.jpg

Got in my black sparkplug wire boots....story on these is I ordered them a long time ago back when I wasnt gonna wrap my headers. Part got on back order, i forgot I ordered them due to all the other shit I ordered, they came in today lol. Figured I would sport them, they look good and to be honest I wasnt digging my red wires. :
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...rleebob019.jpg
Figured out my JTR bleeder location with upper radiator hose I was going to use. I ended up just rotating the hose and now the 'hump' is on the driver side. Now the bleeder is in the highest position.:
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...rleebob026.jpg

How she sits for start up tomorrow(intake layout is temporary of course):
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...rleebob030.jpg

FC3S Murray 03-17-2011 10:31 PM

Alright guys got her started......fuel pump was wired backwards duh!
Actually got it started on Tuesday but 5 min after this vid I got a call that a loved one was dying so my family and I headed out to WA. We got back yesterday.

Anyway, The motor sounds awesome and runs great. She is full of coolant in this vid since I got that low coolant sensor in that day. The vibrations from the open headers were so intense that shit was falling of my shelves and getting my attention lol.

Some parameters I recorded:

EGT's @ idle: L bank 400*F, R bank 385
Fuel Pressure: 65 psi
Idle rpm: 800-850
Wide band AFR: ......I was getting crazy #'s from 20 to 40:1 afr's...i need to calibrate the LC-1/XD-16 set-up. Maybe the sensor being installed 3'' from the open exhst pipe was throwing it for a loop
The hottest I let the coolant temp get was 195 on the GM sensor and my shitty prosport sensor was reading 220 in the passenger head. I may still have to burp it some. My fan never kicked on and I have to contact frost to see what he programmed my fans to kick on at.

All in all I am STOKED it runs!!
...you can see my dumbass here trying to bleed the coolant right after start up....it dawns on me 15 seconds later that the thermostat has to open up lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IXLMBtc9gw#]start up

project86 03-17-2011 10:36 PM

shit ya.

chibikougan 03-18-2011 10:34 AM

Sorry to hear about sick loved ones fella. Good to see that its runnin. Now come pick me up. Gotta seat them rings! Damn your a funny bastard and lmao at shit falling off the shelf. I like the "really?" look you gave them as they fell.

Must come ooogle is it almost BBQ time? I can actually have it at my house now.

FC3S Murray 03-18-2011 01:00 PM

Haha, thanks man. Yeah I was just thinking, " that shit better not of hit my car!"

I am troubleshooting a fan relay wiring issue right now. Once i get it figured out tonight I will put her on the ground. NO leaks, no high temps, no low pressures so all is well.......so far ;)

chibikougan 03-18-2011 01:38 PM

Haha we can go to walmart and grab a fan to plug into the cigarette lighter when it reaches the right temp. Seriously though I used to be a mad hater on these swaps but your build has changed my mind on that completely. I haven't even rode in it yet. Get that fan figured out and get out there and Flog that biotch! Gonna be a sleeper. Normally people are very scared by the rotary noise. At least with my car with the gilmners that was my experience. First race of the year is coming up soon too. You gonna be there?

project86 03-18-2011 01:50 PM

Im gonna say even though you already know but im lovin it. Clean as ever, and Clean wins no matter whats under the hood.

FC3S Murray 03-18-2011 03:38 PM

yes yes...give in to the darkness....muhahahaha. ;)

Thanks a lot guys, means a lot. Yeah, I will try to get it to SCCA if all goes accordenly.

TitaniumTT 03-18-2011 04:49 PM

Did it blow up yet? You've still got that bdc sticker on there..... it's just a matter of time :rofl:

project86 03-18-2011 06:05 PM

hahaha.. nope.. no darkside for me.. im going NA 20B Gmonsen style haha.

FC3S Murray 03-18-2011 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 143979)
Did it blow up yet? You've still got that bdc sticker on there..... it's just a matter of time :rofl:

lol...you are sucha little shit sometimes ;) BDC sticker gone!

MaczPayne 03-18-2011 09:07 PM

Nice, I love that truck sound :p

TitaniumTT 03-18-2011 09:44 PM

Does sound alot like the Z71 up the street :rofl:

FC3S Murray 03-20-2011 11:18 AM

....i hate you guys lol

WE3RX7 03-20-2011 12:30 PM

I love the LS....

































... in my Denali, lol...

FC3S Murray 03-21-2011 09:30 AM

lol whatever :)

Now take that motor out of your 5700lb Denali, put it in a 2800lb car and walk away with a 7.5 power-to-wieght ratio. Make it 6.3 if you add some small goodies:p(that is calculated with driver too;))

Here are some ratios:

CAR & Peak HP/PRICE/lbs-to-HP


Acura TSX=205 / $29000 / 15.7 /
Acura TL=286 / $39000 / 12.6 /

Audi TT=255 / $40000 / 10.9 /
Audi A3=250 / $34000 / 12.9 /
Audi RS4=420 / $66000 / 8.6 /
BMW 3 Series=300 / $41000 / 10.9 /
BMW Z4=330 / $51800 / 9.1 /

Bugati Veyron 16.4 =987 / $1,200,000 / 4.2 /

Buick LaCrosse=240 / $29000 / 14.5 /
Buick Lucerbe=275 / $35000 / 13.6 /

Cadillac CTS-V=400 / $51000 / 9.2 /
Cadillac STS-V=469 / $77000 / 8.2 /

Chevy Cobalt SS=205 / $22000 / 13.5 /
Chevy Corvette C6=400 / $45000 / 7.95 /
Chevy Corvette Z06=505 / $70000 / 6.3 /
Chevy Impala SS=303 / $28000 / 11.7 /
Chevy Malibu SS=240 / $25000 / 13.2 /
Chevy Monte Carlo SS=303 / $28000 / 11.0 /
Chevy Trailblazer SS=395 / $33000 / 12.0 /

Chrysler Crossfire=215 / $40000 / 14.0 /
Chrysler PT Cruiser=230 / $29000 / 13.3 /
Chrysler 300C SRT-8=425 / $40000 / 8.7 /
Dodge Caliber SRT-4=300 / $24000 / 9.8 /
Dodge Charger SRT-8=425 / $36000 / 8.9 /
Dodge Viper SRT-10=510 / $84000 / 6.7 /

Ford Mustang GT500=500 / $41000 / 6.7 /
Ford Mustang GT=300 / $28000 / 11.5 /

Honda S2000=237 / $34000 / 11.9 /
Honda Civic Si=197 / $24000 / 14.6 /

Hyundai Tiburon=172 / $20000 / 17.3 /

Infinite G35=315 / $35000 / 11.1 /

Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8=425 / $40000 / 11.2 /

Lexus IS350=306 / $35000 / 11.3 /

Lincoln MKZ=263 / $35000 / 12.9 /

Lotus Elise=190 / $43000 / 10.4 /
Lotus Exige=243 / $80000 / 8.1 /

Mazda MX-5=170 / $28000 / 14.35 /
Mazda RX-7 FD3S Type R Bathurst= 276 / $43000 / 10.1
Mazda RX-7 FC3s TitaniumTT Edition, ROTARY POWERED = 405/ $$don't ask / 6.9
Mazda RX-8=238 / $28000 / 12.7 /
MazdaSpeed3=260 / $24000 / 10.3 /
MazdaSpeed6=287 / $30000 / 11.1 /

Mercedes CLK=475 / $85000 / 7.5 /

Mini Cooper S=175 / $25000 / 14.5 /

Mitsubishi Evo XI=286 / $35000 / 11.18 /
Mitsubishi Eclipse=260 / $29000 / 14.1 /

Nissan Altima=365 / $30000 / 11.5 /
Nissan 350Z=315 / $42000 / 10.6 /

Pontiac Solstice GXP=260 / $26000 / 11.5 /
Pontiac G6=252 / $29000 / 13.4 /
Pontiac Grand Prix=303 / $28000 / 11.4 /

Porche Boxter S=295 / $65000 / 9.7 /
Porche Cayman S=295 / $70000 / 10 /

Saleen S7 Twin Turbo=750 / $600000 / 3.9 /

Saturn Ion=205 / $21000 / 13.4 /
Saturn Sky=260 / $29000 / 11.2 /

Scion tC=161 / $17000 / 18.0 /

Subaru STI=293 / $33000 / 10.3 /
Subaru Legacy=250 / $34000 / 12.2 /
VW Jetta=200 / $24000 / 16.1 /
VW GTI=200 / $23000 / 15.8 /

Volvo V50=218 / $35000 / 14.8 /
Volvo S60=300 / $36000 / 11.6 /
Volvo V70=300 / $37000 / 10.98 /
Volvo S80=311 / $45000 / 11.2 /


Thanks for reading my post to justify my guilty conscious:o21:

FerociousP 03-21-2011 09:45 AM

You had me at "Chrysler Crossfire=215 / $40000 / 14.0 /" :puke::9898:

chibikougan 03-21-2011 01:00 PM

Am I installing a receiver hitch on that bad boy so you can tow my rx2 to the races?

FC3S Murray 03-21-2011 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FerociousP (Post 144176)
You had me at "Chrysler Crossfire=215 / $40000 / 14.0 /" :puke::9898:

:p Yeah ya got to love google copy and paste. Quite the diverse list isn't it lol.

TitaniumTT 03-21-2011 03:06 PM

Especially the one in RED :suspect:

FC3S Murray 03-21-2011 03:09 PM

That one is a one of a kind!

FC3S Murray 03-21-2011 03:12 PM

NEW Better qaulity vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmO-XNUVJVs

FC3S Murray 04-05-2011 09:48 PM

FIRST DRIVE yesterday.....MAN OH MAN was it SWEET!!

Everything works as expected. The Integra speedo only needed a little tap on the head and then the needle jumped and worked the whole 12 miles. The cooling temp differances in my gauges cleared up. The C6 Z06 clutch is very streetable, I was expecting something a little harsher lol. The low end torque is CRAZY...so nimble when cruising and has good street manners.

It goes to get the exhaust tomorrow morning. I drove it down today to the exhaust shop to have them take a peek at the ride height just in case I needed to raise it for their hoist. Height was fine. They were CRAZY EXCITED about it, I laughed as I pulled up because everyone in the parking lot/block was rubber necking me:))

Got some pics of it today....it is dirty as all hell but I forgot how nice she sits. :yay:
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...urray/3007.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...urray/3009.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...urray/3015.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...urray/3002.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...urray/3006.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...urray/3003.jpg

INTAKE DONE
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...urray/3004.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...ray/3005-1.jpg

Interior cleaned
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...urray/3014.jpg

Ride height is nice but hopefully not too low(rear especially)
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...urray/3011.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...urray/3010.jpg

FC3S Murray 04-05-2011 09:49 PM

Exhaust DONE!!!!!
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...urray/3024.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...urray/3023.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...urray/3025.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...urray/3022.jpg

Turned out great looking!
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...urray/3027.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...urray/3028.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...urray/3030.jpg
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...urray/3029.jpg

VIDEO:
3 033

The car is WAY louder then the camera makes it seem. The 6" Magnaflows really have a nice rasp to them. However I am happy I dont freeway travel....these babies will drone at higher speeds.:)

All that is left now is to get my bumper installed, make a shroud for my radiator/ intake and take it to Spokane on to get tuned this month

chibikougan 04-06-2011 09:28 AM

Nice!! Gonna be a fun drive.

RETed 04-06-2011 01:28 PM

Sorry, but I gotta say this... :(

The build started as a really costly build then turned into a V8 conversion.

I dunno why you went with the cheapie crush bent exhaust system, cause the necked-down bends are just hurting exhaust flow. :(


-Ted

project86 04-06-2011 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RETed (Post 146007)
Sorry, but I gotta say this... :(

The build started as a really costly build then turned into a V8 conversion.

I dunno why you went with the cheapie crush bent exhaust system, cause the necked-down bends are just hurting exhaust flow. :(


-Ted

In Sean's defense... i dont think anyone near us has a mandrel bender.....

josh18_2k 04-06-2011 04:56 PM

in the v8's defense, i doubt it'll make any real difference lol

(until cam anyway)

FC3S Murray 04-06-2011 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RETed (Post 146007)
Sorry, but I gotta say this... :(

The build started as a really costly build then turned into a V8 conversion.

I dunno why you went with the cheapie crush bent exhaust system, cause the necked-down bends are just hurting exhaust flow. :(


-Ted

I know I know but Kyle is right...no manderal bender anywhere. Not to mention the cost of labor I was gonna pay for using cut up peices of manderal bent pipe was gonna be upwards of 780.00(what he qouted me). The bends are not at all too severe, I will take a power hit to save the cash....I am a family man bro, money is very scarce when it comes to this car.

The entire car has been costly over the last 8 years lol, this swap was actually pretty cheap after all the money you rotary guys paid me for my old parts lol:rofl:

Quote:

in the v8's defense, i doubt it'll make any real difference lol


What I have read about a 3% decrease in power

TitaniumTT 04-06-2011 05:46 PM

Nicely done Sean!

I would change ONLY two things

1) I would change would be to swap the MAF pipe. Meaning put the strait piece before the sensor, not after it.

2) I would've ditched the bdc bullshit irons, the bdc bullshit meth system, and stayed rotary ;)

OK, 3 things.... If I were you I'd give me your rims :smilielol5:

project86 04-06-2011 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 146026)
OK, 3 things.... If I were you I'd give me your rims :smilielol5:


I already have dibs on those in the event something bad happens... you'll have to fight me for them B. And i wouldnt plan on winning if i were you ........

:toetap05::suspect::94:

RETed 04-07-2011 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray (Post 146024)
I know I know but Kyle is right...no manderal bender anywhere. Not to mention the cost of labor I was gonna pay for using cut up peices of manderal bent pipe was gonna be upwards of 780.00(what he qouted me). The bends are not at all too severe, I will take a power hit to save the cash....I am a family man bro, money is very scarce when it comes to this car.

Yeah, I hear yeah, and I've been sorta keeping up with this thread.
I know you've spent a LOT of money on the previous build, and I gotta hand it to you to get to this point.
Sorry to see you had to go through so much to get to this point.
I guess my point is that it's too bad you had to cut a little bit of corners to get it completed. :)


-Ted

FC3S Murray 04-08-2011 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 146026)
Nicely done Sean!

I would change ONLY two things

1) I would change would be to swap the MAF pipe. Meaning put the strait piece before the sensor, not after it.

2) I would've ditched the bdc bullshit irons, the bdc bullshit meth system, and stayed rotary ;)

OK, 3 things.... If I were you I'd give me your rims :smilielol5:

Thanks Brian:biggthumpup: I think it turned out alright:p

As for the MAF, last night I moved it towards the TB another 1.5" by moving my straight section of tubing into the 90* elbow( I had another 2" of space in there to move it). 3 to 4" of straight pipe before the MAF is within limits of Chevys requirements.

as for the rims.................never! Muhahahahahahahhaa;)

Quote:

I guess my point is that it's too bad you had to cut a little bit of corners to get it completed.


-Ted
Yeah it sucks but it is what it is. Who knows maybe I will grab Ransom and cut out the crushes and weld in some 2.5 manderal I have laying around. It wouldnt be hard. Thanks for the words man:grouphug:

FC3S Murray 04-10-2011 09:33 PM

Well.........I take it back in to the exhaust shop tomorrow to have them remove the sections of crush bent exhaust.

I had no idea it was as big as a power reducer as it is. Should only run me another 160.00 for the replacement of the crush bends with good manderal bends I have.

Damn you ReTED ;)


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