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project86 01-31-2015 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RICE RACING (Post 299303)
The CDI box sends the DON MEGA high voltage to the low resistance CDI specific coils, the coils act as a step up transformer amplifying the voltage to INSANE levels. This process is super fast!... NOTE: it still takes time to build up the 'power' in the Capacitors and this is why even with multi channel boxes you need a certain minimum time between firing events to make the full rated capacity of that specific CDI box. For the M&W rotary box it can only do this on a sequential 4 channel ECU sending even spaced spark events out of the ECU (IE Apexi PFC does not do this on Leading plugs).

It IGN-1A uses inductance and takes time to build up the primary side voltage and current to a level that is acceptable enough, then as this field collapses it induces a secondary high voltage through magnetic inductance in the secondary winding of the coil, its a slow ass process, that is very dependent on 'dwell' or charge time. IF you don't have enough time to build up the charge then the c-u-n-t-s have very low power and will misfire, so cant be used on wasted spark engines (OEM and PFC), and they always struggle at high RPM due to the proportional loss of dwell time available to build up sufficient energy through this slow ass process...... this is why the c-u-n-t-s are shit on 2 stroke / WANKEL high rev applications as there is such low time between firing events ........... hope this makes sense?


Yes.. so its for speed and strength of the spark the coil is giving. So it would work fine with out the CDI box if it was run on a standalone system like Haltech?

RICE RACING 01-31-2015 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by project86 (Post 299314)
Yes.. so its for speed and strength of the spark the coil is giving. So it would work fine with out the CDI box if it was run on a standalone system like Haltech?

Haltech (only one that cant is the PFC) can use the IGN-1A effectively, yes.

project86 01-31-2015 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RICE RACING (Post 299326)
Haltech (only one that cant is the PFC) can use the IGN-1A effectively, yes.

gotcha. Well... eventually ill be very interested :coolgleamA:

as soon as I'm ready to get the engine all built up. I'm working on getting the rest of the car ready to receive the good ol engine.

by the way .. your use of the term "donmega" makes me giggle. I assume it means "awesome" but i like it :rofl:

RICE RACING 01-31-2015 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by project86 (Post 299331)
gotcha. Well... eventually ill be very interested :coolgleamA:

as soon as I'm ready to get the engine all built up. I'm working on getting the rest of the car ready to receive the good ol engine.

by the way .. your use of the term "donmega" makes me giggle. I assume it means "awesome" but i like it :rofl:


I coined the term eons ago, its derived from the 'megladon' which is a big fuck off shark that rules the ocean, I thought it sounded catchy so reversed the saying to Don Mega!
Been using it everywhere since haha.

RICE RACING 01-31-2015 10:25 PM

Measured a PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT apex seal made by the useless c-u-n-t-s 'power seals' snapped the turd with a pair of pliers LOL and the piece I have left is factory ground on a taper LOL, bottom of it is 1.932mm and top is 1.945mm LOL!!!!!! only 0.013mm deviation in thickness over 8mm distance!!!!!!!

Fucking piece of crap! These seal TOTALLY RAPED a brand new set of rotor housings too LOL, and they broke in the engine as well hahaha.

http://i.imgur.com/FkaGTSY.jpg

Mind you this is the same c-u-n-t (Kev from SCR) who sent me his prototype SCR seals in 2005, these turned up in a GLAD snap lock bag and were sanded on on the flats in figure of 8 pattern LOL and made from BHP mild steel cold drawn bar black bar LOL.

These shonky made 'Power Seals' are not much better, what the fuck do you expect for ~$300 LOL

You get what you pay for, in this case A LOT LESS !
It pieces of fucking garbage like this and the list is longer than my cock! (one shit product after another!) that made me say 'fuck all these asshats!' it about time someone made a decent apex seal product
that actually has some engineering pedigree behind it and will actually work!

project86 02-01-2015 08:52 AM

Maybe you can get mazda interested ;)

RICE RACING 02-01-2015 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by project86 (Post 299349)
Maybe you can get mazda interested ;)

They are way too expensive in material and processing to make for OEM to be interested.

The special work alone in processing is over 20 hours work in each set, they would never be down for that. They cost me allot! but money was no object in coming up with a solution I found acceptable.

Mazda on the other hand have a very different design brief, lowest cost, durability, safety factor, and power limit many orders lower.

I can make the Mazda seal for around $15 a piece (main beam and corner), the material is basic shit, the hardening of the tip is 'simple', the finish is average. I am sure they get it made for less than that. For the application they are o.k. (just) and I am sure Mazda can make it for less than I could? outsourcing to Mahle or similar company..... either way they make an absolute killing on the parts when selling it to end users, that is a fact.

RICE RACING 02-01-2015 07:55 PM

Back to the thread!

Not long to go now people, if you want this then show me the money!
Will go to ones who have emailed already.

Thanks

RICE RACING 02-06-2015 02:16 AM

Almost ready !!!!! Want some ?????

:coolgleamA: :fawk: :auto:

http://i.imgur.com/FMJlwJ6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/jlHa6uv.jpg

Fendamonky 02-06-2015 06:58 AM

Where's the "Like" button??? :)

RICE RACING 02-06-2015 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fendamonky (Post 300094)
Where's the "Like" button??? :)

Only 'gag factor' button, ask TTT he knows where it is ;)

TitaniumTT 02-06-2015 07:06 PM

:smilielol5: Gag Factor Button AKA Tonsils :rofl:

Fendamonky 02-06-2015 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RICE RACING (Post 300175)
Only 'gag factor' button, ask TTT he knows where it is ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 300185)
:smilielol5: Gag Factor Button AKA Tonsils :rofl:

:awesome: AND doing that comes with its own warm reward :lol:

RICE RACING 02-10-2015 07:01 PM

Some finished pics due today/tomorrow :) :auto:
Also latest batch of apex seals too, once things slow down a bit I'll have these always on hand, ready to go. New Year always a shit time to get things sorted :icon_no2:

RICE RACING 02-10-2015 09:51 PM

Just some quick pics before I ship these out to big Japan workshop

http://i.imgur.com/sF1GX74.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fhiqk6Y.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/0GbPSTw.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/y6E3EUs.jpg


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