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TitaniumTT 09-22-2009 07:13 PM

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The next morning all primed

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1253664596

That's allnighter Brian. Bills seen that face. So to answer your question Sean, No, I don't sleep.
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1253664596


Yup yup.... I'm gonna enjoy that look on my FC
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That same night prepping for the interior coating of Lizzard Skin.
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1253664596

This car is gonna be slicker than lubed goose shit

TitaniumTT 09-22-2009 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WE3RX7 (Post 97426)
Its all good - its people like you and your buddy who keep me going! Whats a competition if your the only one in the race ya know??

If you guys get something together in 2010, you'll have my business for sure :) I want that front strut bar / brace combo!

That'll def be an option, but I'm going to need your car in my shop for that. I'm running the FD waterpump which I believe moves the alt forward. I would like to get the thing behind the alt.... I had to modify (heat and beat the living shit out of) the support braces for the hood to get it to clear.

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Originally Posted by EJayCe996 (Post 97449)
Dude, you totally "leaked" a little ;)

Oh, did I mention I forgot all about the tranny fluid so when I pulled the engine/trans the entire case ended up all over the floor? :rofl: now I have to effing lay in it when I'm under the car because I sure as hell am not putting the car down, rolling it out of the garage, then sweeping all of the oil dri up..... so much for that clean garage floor.

Ah that blows man.... find a blown driveshaft and cut the yoke off. Whenever you remove the driveshaft, insert the buttplug and that'll never happen again.... SOOOO NICE. Although I actually got a smaller plastic plug with the FE trans :p

I didn't leak the BIG things that I'm doing though. This is why you need to come to DGRR, and see AJ's car as well. She'll be .......... different

EJayCe996 09-22-2009 10:10 PM

Well I got a ways to go til then... maybe I'll be at 60% of how I want the car by then. Maybe presentable... or maybe a blazing mess....

EJayCe996 09-22-2009 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 97462)

That is probably the most straight FC frame I've ever seen... Seriously. Mine looks nothing like that (for a few reasons *cough*) and most of the locals in DFW who's cars I've seen, without the front end on, aren't that straight either.

I might have to roll up there just to have you do my paint, lol.

need RX7 09-23-2009 12:34 AM

That is so awesome. Are there enough pics of that car's progress to make a thread for it? :) Or is there a pre-existing thread floating around somewhere?

TitaniumTT 09-23-2009 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by EJayCe996 (Post 97482)
That is probably the most straight FC frame I've ever seen... Seriously. Mine looks nothing like that (for a few reasons *cough*) and most of the locals in DFW who's cars I've seen, without the front end on, aren't that straight either.

I might have to roll up there just to have you do my paint, lol.

One of your neighbors/friends is thinking the same thing. In fact, we're in discussions now :suspect: Something to most definately consider though and I'm being completely serious.

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Originally Posted by need RX7 (Post 97485)
That is so awesome. Are there enough pics of that car's progress to make a thread for it? :) Or is there a pre-existing thread floating around somewhere?

Yeah there is, it's over on V8RX7Forum. Project Imola in the builds section..... username SunshineFC3S or somthing very close to that. I'd give you a link but like most things RX7 related, the forum is down :rofl: The progress has been lackluster the last year. I have high ..... VERY high hopes of having her done by DGRR. I doubt it'll happen though.

TitaniumTT 09-23-2009 01:33 AM

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So I told a forum member I'd get some pics up of the comparision between the Marren and the Aeromotive filter and here they are. I also mounted the thing tonight. Waiting on a crimped -3AN line from Goodridge/Carolina Racing Supply which is due tomorrow so I can monitor Fuel PSI becusae........ well.... I seem to need it.

Anywho, comparision of the two side by similar length, the Aeromotive is 3/8" longer, didn't measure the OD, I think the Aero is 2" and the Marren 1.5"

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1253687559

More importantly, look at the difference in the filter area. There really is no comparision at all. As a bonus when you buy an Aeromotive replacement filter (I already have one which is how I know this) the new element comes with an o-ring to seal the element to the top piece of the filter, and there is a new o-ring for the ORB on top of the filter.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1253687559

TitaniumTT - bracket builder extraordinaire :rofl: The billet piece I bought, obviously, pricey @ ~ $60 but worth it, SOOOOO sexy and makes removing the thing a breeze.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1253687559

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Using the stock nutserts for mounting, the thing is SOLID! 1/4" 5052 AL with 3/8" spacers so I could locknut the thing from behind. I'll weld them on later and MAYBE powdercoat or anodize it. I toyed with the idea of using 3/8" plate for the mounting and then tapping for the 1/4-20 cap nuts but this being a fuel item, I opted for the MOST secure.... and here it is.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...1&d=1253687559

FC3S Murray 09-23-2009 07:08 AM

That filter looks like a much more robust unit. Hopefully this cures your woes. Good idea on the fuel psi monitoring. Damn bro, your FC has more monitoring equipment then the F-15's I work on, lol.

I still can't get over how fried you look in that photo after the prime job. A little vodka would have cured that lethargic look.....a certian goose perhaps.:)

Filter looks good mounted. I was contemplating getting that same filter last year.

WE3RX7 09-23-2009 11:02 AM

Well holy crap on Alex's T2 - I've got some serious competition! Thats an awesome rig you all have setup for coating the car though. I would have loved to had mine flipped and dipped, but no resources for down here and I'm in a town lot, lol :)

Did he use herculiner on the underside? I flip flopping on what to use as the top coat. I have POR15 as the base coat to protect the rust, but havent fully decided just yet how to proceed. Def lizard skin the interior though.



That fuel filter mounting bracket turned out really nice too - if you dont solve your fuel problems soon - Dave is going to disown you :)

TitaniumTT 09-23-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FC3S Murray (Post 97498)
That filter looks like a much more robust unit. Hopefully this cures your woes. Good idea on the fuel psi monitoring. Damn bro, your FC has more monitoring equipment then the F-15's I work on, lol.

I still can't get over how fried you look in that photo after the prime job. A little vodka would have cured that lethargic look.....a certian goose perhaps.:)

Filter looks good mounted. I was contemplating getting that same filter last year.

I hope so too man. I mean, where is the dirt coming from? If it was coming from outside the car, I would think fuel would end up on the ground when fueling :dunno: Either way though, that filter should last more than 500 miles. The fuel PSI logging has been there from the beginning. I actually have a seperate map in there for fuel psi comp but I've never played with it. i may set something up so that if it ever heads south of say 30psii it just pigs up the entire map. We'll see.

I would've def hit the grey goose drivers that I loove sooooo much but I actually had to work that day. We finished at sunrise, went out and got some grub, headed back to inspect the work, which is when that pic was taken, and then Alex went home to sleep and I went to work for ~10 hours. He went back to my place that night to start taping everything off and then we herculined, then I passed the fuck out. Yeah, I hate those allnighters yet I always seem to do them, expecially before a race, a show, a dyno, whatever. Which reminds me, I should probably go put the tranny, driveshaft, exhaust etc etc etc and re-plumb the fuel PSI sender so I can make it to the dyno tomorrow WOOT!!!!!

What filter did you end up running?

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Originally Posted by WE3RX7 (Post 97509)
That fuel filter mounting bracket turned out really nice too - if you dont solve your fuel problems soon - Dave is going to disown you :)

Thanks man. I hope this is the end of it. I kinda think that the filter was pretty FUBAR and was never cleaned from the epoxy but we'll see. If I have any more problems I'm replacing the -6 stainless lines that I already replace, I'm already buying a BRAND NEW S5 tank, I dunno what else.

As for Dave dis-owning me...... Did you hear what he said as we left the last time???? Get this piece of shit outta my shop :rofl: I'm picking up a pint of his favorite liquor before I head out. I figure one of three things will happen and all will be worthy of a drink so I can't go wrong.

Aight - offf to stuff a tranny back in, I shoulda just pulled the engine and made my life easier. Later night but easier.

Whizbang 09-23-2009 07:37 PM

hmm, the filter comparison is pretty interesting. Ill have to take that into consideration for future projects.

mazdadude7 09-23-2009 08:16 PM

I want you to find and prep me a fc roller...

WE3RX7 09-23-2009 09:01 PM

Bah - just learned read up about herculiner not surviving intense heat... makes me second guess using it as the basis for the undercoat. I may just use the lizard skin all over, or maybe a combo of the two... something you may want to share with Alex. Its not that it cant take the heat, but apparently it gets "gooey" and can potentially become flammable when it gets to a liquid like state...

Max777 09-23-2009 09:31 PM

Really? Is herculiner an undercoating or a truck bed liner? Cause while undercoating is naturally kind of gooey, bed liner should hold up MUCH better to heat and not be as much of a problem. I think that if you keep it away from the turbo area, the rest of it should be fine in the exhaust path, it's not like we're running cast iron pipes, just the turbine housing, the rest is thin walled pipe, and cools off rather quick.

WE3RX7 09-23-2009 09:39 PM

Yea - its a truck bed liner and its mainly the areas directly around the turbo and downpipe I'm concerned with.. thats why I'm thinking maybe a combo of lizard skin and herculiner, but honestly - per gallon, lizard skin is cheaper so it may make more sense.

Herculiner is really tough, but supposedly when near intense heat it gets soft... supposedly even in direct sunlight for a few hours it can get a bit "tacky" like a nice racing tire consistency...

This is all from a buddy of mine at the parts store who sells TONS of stuff, he really has no reason to lie, but its not from direct experience, just customers who've told him it...

Max777 09-23-2009 10:19 PM

and that's what I'm talking about... getting soft in the sunlight... good bed liner should not do that, otherwise what's the point if it just rubs off. Go with some other brand of bed liner and I don't have experience with lizard skin so I can't comment on that....

TitaniumTT 09-23-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravity Fed (Post 97556)
hmm, the filter comparison is pretty interesting. Ill have to take that into consideration for future projects.

Yeah, I was surprised at the difference in size between the Marren and the Aeromotive. I wanted to use the Platnium (I think) line of Aeromotive filters but I wouldn't have the room unless I re-did a bunch of lines which means pulling the UIM and I'm just not going to do that right now. If this filter gives me grief, I'll do the biggest they got..... and then strip out everything from the fuel fill to the filter, sodomize it, burn it, and dance on the ashes then replace everything with factory new parts. Except the line, those will be stainless -6 again.

TitaniumTT 09-23-2009 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WE3RX7 (Post 97568)
Bah - just learned read up about herculiner not surviving intense heat... makes me second guess using it as the basis for the undercoat. I may just use the lizard skin all over, or maybe a combo of the two... something you may want to share with Alex. Its not that it cant take the heat, but apparently it gets "gooey" and can potentially become flammable when it gets to a liquid like state...

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Originally Posted by Max777 (Post 97569)
Really? Is herculiner an undercoating or a truck bed liner? Cause while undercoating is naturally kind of gooey, bed liner should hold up MUCH better to heat and not be as much of a problem. I think that if you keep it away from the turbo area, the rest of it should be fine in the exhaust path, it's not like we're running cast iron pipes, just the turbine housing, the rest is thin walled pipe, and cools off rather quick.

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Originally Posted by WE3RX7 (Post 97570)
Yea - its a truck bed liner and its mainly the areas directly around the turbo and downpipe I'm concerned with.. thats why I'm thinking maybe a combo of lizard skin and herculiner, but honestly - per gallon, lizard skin is cheaper so it may make more sense.

Herculiner is really tough, but supposedly when near intense heat it gets soft... supposedly even in direct sunlight for a few hours it can get a bit "tacky" like a nice racing tire consistency...

This is all from a buddy of mine at the parts store who sells TONS of stuff, he really has no reason to lie, but its not from direct experience, just customers who've told him it...

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Originally Posted by Max777 (Post 97576)
and that's what I'm talking about... getting soft in the sunlight... good bed liner should not do that, otherwise what's the point if it just rubs off. Go with some other brand of bed liner and I don't have experience with lizard skin so I can't comment on that....

Interesting.... I'll have to talk to Alex about this. I know he did his research and was torn between a few different brands. The Herculine was only a one part. Personally I would prefer to do a two part. I'll ask him what he found out when he was looking. Something else to consider is just how hot it would honestly get under there? My guess is not very. Maybe what I'll do if I remember is shoot the underside of the car with the lazer temp do-hickey I have and see what some area's are getting up to. If you look at Alex's car, you'll see where the undercoating stops. Really all you would have to worry about is the exhaust tubing, not the turbo area. The thing to do if you're concerned about it is to wrap the entire exhaust with that downpipe wrap. I was able to touch my DP after a few minutes of run time. The mani burned, the center can burned, but the DP was actually pretty cool to the touch.

TitaniumTT 09-23-2009 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mazdadude7 (Post 97565)
I want you to find and prep me a fc roller...

I'll be PM'ing you shortly. I came up to get my laptop to run a comp test and change a few things in the MAP. I will be more than happy to do it for you. I would suggest though, unless it's going to be completely stock, to mock up everything first. Many things can easily change, for example, you may run a front mount and need to do some trimming. You may want to mount your reg somewhere on the shock tower and need to weld a few nuts to the backside so you can thread right in. Things like that CAN be done, but it's best to do them before paint. Just my thoughts. But seriously, I'd love to get a bunch of cars lined up so we can hit the ground running in Jan. I would love to prep a roller for you so lets chat over the next few days.

MaczPayne 09-24-2009 01:43 AM

You've got so much pace going that I can't keep up! Everytime I check this thread it feels like I've been gone for months!

TitaniumTT 09-25-2009 11:34 AM

:rofl: That's the beauty/curse of being able to survive on 4 hours of sleep and being more stubborn than a dead mule... or determined.

So anyway - DYNO YESTERDAY!!!!!!! WOOT! and it was successful. Antman turned up for the show, again man, great meeting you, he's got a kickass FC with a bunch of cool little custom parts, which I have a hard-on for. And happy B-day to EJay, and yes, we took a vid. The last run, 4th gear pull. So I need a Youtube acct and I'll post that bitch up for sure.

So, what were the results. Going off the Motec's MAP sensor and not the Autometer boot gauge we were running 160-165 kpa which is about 8.7-9.4lb's of boost. Not alot at all for these turbo's, less than the factory. The first time we dyno'ed back in April we were @ 170-175kpa or about 10.1-10.7 lbs and we made 313 RWHP, impressive. This time we made 329.88 RWHP!! That is fricken INSANE for these turbo's. Who says stock twins can't make power??

The torque climbed all the way to 6800 and the hp didn't start to fall off until ~72-7300.

I'll post the chart probably tomorrow as I am late for a wedding..... I just really wanted to let EJay know that I was finally able to get him his b-day gift :lol:

MaczPayne 09-25-2009 11:42 AM

Wow! I'm expecting a huge-ass space underneath that curve!

WE3RX7 09-25-2009 02:26 PM

That is great B!

Bet that put a smile down on Dave's face for sure.... guess you had to pay up this time, lol...

When are you going all out for that 15psi pull? Is that going to be later in October or ???

FC3S Murray 09-25-2009 02:37 PM

SWEET ASS SWEET Brian!! Get that vid up ASAP!!

need RX7 09-25-2009 03:44 PM

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mazdadude7 09-25-2009 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 97582)
I'll be PM'ing you shortly. I came up to get my laptop to run a comp test and change a few things in the MAP. I will be more than happy to do it for you. I would suggest though, unless it's going to be completely stock, to mock up everything first. Many things can easily change, for example, you may run a front mount and need to do some trimming. You may want to mount your reg somewhere on the shock tower and need to weld a few nuts to the backside so you can thread right in. Things like that CAN be done, but it's best to do them before paint. Just my thoughts. But seriously, I'd love to get a bunch of cars lined up so we can hit the ground running in Jan. I would love to prep a roller for you so lets chat over the next few days.

looking forward to your pm :) and your dyno run on youtube!!!

antman0408 09-25-2009 11:03 PM

It was great meeting you and to being able to see your car. Very impressed with everything about your car, especially the Motec. Let me know when you're going back to KDR, I'll try and make it there.

EJayCe996 09-26-2009 03:12 AM

izzz sexy tiiiime. Birthday has been a blast so far... except for the fact I have class in 4 hours :rofl:

Now it seems I'm about to have a small group of stripper friends come to my birthday bbq/drink-a-thon tomorrow.

TitaniumTT 09-26-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MaczPayne (Post 97680)
Wow! I'm expecting a huge-ass space underneath that curve!

It's damn linear for sure. The neat thing will be when we get the sequentials working and comparing the non-vs-seq torque/hp <4500. Dave overlaped an FD with my pulls and I'm giving up about 75rwhp below 4500

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Originally Posted by FC3S Murray (Post 97692)
SWEET ASS SWEET Brian!! Get that vid up ASAP!!

Vids up!

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Originally Posted by mazdadude7 (Post 97728)
looking forward to your pm :) and your dyno run on youtube!!!

Vids up, I'll be putting that PM together soon ;)

TitaniumTT 09-26-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EJayCe996 (Post 97748)
izzz sexy tiiiime. Birthday has been a blast so far... except for the fact I have class in 4 hours :rofl:

Now it seems I'm about to have a small group of stripper friends come to my birthday bbq/drink-a-thon tomorrow.

NICE!!!! Strippers are the best kind of friends to have :D

Vids up, I said that already but a link would be good :rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s_lFm6Ume4

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Originally Posted by antman0408 (Post 97737)
It was great meeting you and to being able to see your car. Very impressed with everything about your car, especially the Motec. Let me know when you're going back to KDR, I'll try and make it there.

Awesome meeting you too man.... I'll post up when I head back to KDR for sure. Maybe even get Bill up there too

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Originally Posted by WE3RX7 (Post 97689)
That is great B!

Bet that put a smile down on Dave's face for sure.... guess you had to pay up this time, lol...

When are you going all out for that 15psi pull? Is that going to be later in October or ???

Yeah I had to pay up, I got no problems with that after the work Dave did. Hell, I even picked up a bottle of Jack Single Barrell for him. I figure one of three things would have happened
Make good power - cause for a drink
Comp test came back bad - cause for a drink
Blow her up on the dyno - cause for a drink

It certainly did put a smile on his face, you can even see it in the vid :rofl: I don't know when I'm going back, probably about 2 weeks. Depends on sched and shit.

TitaniumTT 09-26-2009 07:36 PM

Just wanna try something


Turbo II Rotor 09-26-2009 10:53 PM

Awesome. Looking good Brian.

EJayCe996 09-27-2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT (Post 97786)
Just wanna try something


How awesome is it to wake up to this!?

TitaniumTT 09-28-2009 10:24 PM

Thanks guys. With anyluck I'll be waking you with a 400+ rwhp pull in the near future. Going to try to get back there on 10/5.

Scott, when I leave CT I hop on 287, over the Tap and follow 287 to 78 into PA. On my way back I'm usually heading to Oyster Bay so I take 78 all the way to the Holland, drive up the city a few blocks to the manhattan bridge and you don't care because that's NY and not Jersey......... do you live anywhere close to that route?

Turbo II Rotor 09-28-2009 11:53 PM

I'm about an hour from where 287 and 78 cross. I live right by where I-195 and the Parkway intersect. Wanna meet up and grab a beer and let me ogle your car again?

TitaniumTT 09-29-2009 03:58 PM

Sounds like a plan to me. Are there any local meets worth attending? I hear about this Jersey Tuesday night recurring thing like it's the second coming.

Turbo II Rotor 10-01-2009 03:06 PM

I've been to a couple of those and they were meh at best. Let me talk to Andrew and Dennis and see if I can drum up the attendance for it in the coming week or two.

TitaniumTT 10-01-2009 08:13 PM

That'd be awesome man. If you're there and we can grab a beer or two before hand I'd be all for it.

EJayCe996 10-02-2009 09:00 PM

I should try and make progress tonight but I think the Ketel One is catching up (seeing as I haven't eaten anything since pho at noon)... Tomorrow is gonna be a cram between Class ending at noon and the RX-7 meet/cruise happening at 7pm. I finally got another jack that stays "low profile" for longer than just the jack point.... Man my fenders have some damage from that bullshit over the years. Not to mention it is a helluva lot safer too. My old Jack creeped down out of the box brand new!

TitaniumTT 10-06-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by EJayCe996 (Post 98362)
I should try and make progress tonight but I think the Ketel One is catching up (seeing as I haven't eaten anything since pho at noon)... Tomorrow is gonna be a cram between Class ending at noon and the RX-7 meet/cruise happening at 7pm. I finally got another jack that stays "low profile" for longer than just the jack point.... Man my fenders have some damage from that bullshit over the years. Not to mention it is a helluva lot safer too. My old Jack creeped down out of the box brand new!

I always jack from the center of the front subframe or the rear diff. Jack stands go under the lower control arm rear pivot point where then mount on the subframe and the arms heading inward on the front of the rear subframe....... you don't use jack stands? Just the jack? That's a little worrysome.

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Antman...... you thinking about heading out?


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