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Einstein
10-16-2008, 11:22 PM
Greetings,
I have my motor apart on a bench at work. The question is: what can I do and still pass emissions? I was hoping to do emissions removal per RR and possibly DIY porting. I live in Cherokee county in Georgia. Here is what we have to pass.

All 1995 and older model year vehicles will receive a four-part inspection:

* A visual inspection of the catalytic converter to check for tampering or removal.
* ASM2 or Accelerated Simulation Mode Test - A dual-mode test including a 25/25 test = 25 percent load at 25 MPH and a 50/15 test = 50 percent load at 15 MPH.
* A tailpipe exhaust emission test.
* A fuel cap inspection to check for adequate seal.

The first and last are the easy ones. It's those darn middle ones that will probably get me.

Thanks in advance.

djmtsu
10-17-2008, 07:24 AM
Run two cats and use either the stock air pump, or an electric one from a Corvette, or an Envoy/Trailblazer.

Good luck!

stylEmon
10-17-2008, 09:56 AM
if it's a turbo, disconnect the wastegate rod. Its real easy, just a little clip. I did it with the turbo installed. This will keep them off the boost.

I ran the air pump right to the cat.

http://87rx7.blogspot.com/2007/06/home-depot-racing-i-finally-got-my-wire.html

djmtsu
10-17-2008, 10:39 AM
Whoops!! I meant to say run the air pump directly to the cats.

FerociousP
10-17-2008, 12:44 PM
im guessing the middle test is to keep people from running too retarded timing??

i've passed with:

'87 n/a
- no emissions, one aftermarket cat fed with air from an air pump, retarded timing, and 5 bottles of ISOHEET on 1/4 tank, passed with 212 out of possible 220 HC ppm, and the CO were close too

'89 n/a
- stock motor, emissions, no cat (had a gutted cat on there when I bought it. I didn't even know it was gutted. Maybe thats why it was so loud), passed with 8 PPM and only a few CO.

7s are weird...

Einstein
10-17-2008, 05:17 PM
Anyone know if I can take any of the solenoids and stuff off? What I am trying to do is clean up the engine bay. I plan on running a cat, but don't want the others.

Also anyone able to pass with any porting?

Atkins Dan
10-18-2008, 12:39 PM
you can still pass with engine porting just as long as the air pump and cat are working correctly you will be fine.

Dan

Einstein
10-18-2008, 03:43 PM
Sounds good, thanks guys. Now I just need to put the motor back together :D

RETed
10-19-2008, 05:22 AM
It depends what kinda numbers you're trying to get under...


-Ted

Einstein
10-21-2008, 07:55 PM
Good point. I'll call a station and find out. Thanks.

savannafc4me
10-24-2008, 11:14 PM
I was wondering can I pass with Headers and a mild Street port??????? I live in California.

savannafc4me
10-24-2008, 11:16 PM
I was wondering can I pass with headers and a street port????

Max777
10-24-2008, 11:51 PM
I was wondering can I pass with headers and a street port????

As far as I know headers would be illegal in cali because they eliminate the 2 pre-cats, and knowing how strict the emissions are over there, I would say no.

but you could always bolt up a stock mani and gutted pre-cats and pass fine.

I have a stock mani, as well as the 2 small pre-cats for sale if you need them btw.

mfisher12
10-27-2008, 10:14 PM
i have an 86 N/A with no emissions components and a racing beat true dual exhaust and pine-apple racing 5th and 6th port sleaves and i ran a practice emissions test: HC 668ppm NOx were very low due to the richness. surprisingly CO and CO2 were close but still failed.
cats and air pumps are the key

Einstein
10-27-2008, 10:20 PM
Wow - go HC's!! I know that I have to get under 150 HC's. I don't remember the other stuff. Still haven't had time to get that info.

Rotary#10
10-29-2008, 11:19 AM
lol you only need one cat on your car to pass any smog test... i have a mid pipe coming from my stock header. in other words I have no precats. and my car is smogged and passed.. but thats with a new cat.

WE3RX7
10-29-2008, 03:01 PM
This is why I register all my cars in a county that has no emissions laws :)

Hell, even my TJ Wrangler barely passes most emissions tests FROM THE FACTORY (which is why they now have V6s in them :( )

Einstein
10-30-2008, 05:49 PM
Yeah, WE3RX7, my co-worker says to do that.

Last time I got my 10AE to pass it had a new cat and I was running G2P. It didn't pass the next year though.

Flooder
11-15-2008, 04:05 PM
I passed in Arizona with an RB header, cat, air pump, charcoal canister, and full emissions removal besides the charcoal canister and air pump obviously. I passed easily.

NoDOHC
11-17-2008, 12:32 AM
Misfiring is your biggest enemy for the Hydrocarbons. Run stock timing and get some load on the engine at idle (headlights, heater motor, etc.) it really helps idle emissions.

Make sure that you have good engine grounds, the 3800 rpm hesitation has gotten me a fail before (full driving cycle test though).

Like they all said, get a functional cat and an air pump and all is good.

The EGR is completely unnecessary too (can still pass emissions without it).

Turbo II
11-17-2008, 02:30 PM
I pull in, the guys smile at me, check the horn and lights then put a sticker on it. :)

I know you should make sure you're fully warmed up and driven some but does/would it help to run the hell out of it before going to get it checked?

Flooder
11-17-2008, 05:14 PM
Not really. Just make sure it's warmed up. If you need to cheat you can use alcohol in the tank.