Thinking about ordering a clutch from horsepowerfreaks.com?

[MADDSLOW]

Don't.

I bought their 6-puck sprung disk (http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/price/Mazda/FD_RX7/HorsepowerFreaks/Clutch/Clutch_Disks) only a few months ago, and thought it sounded like an excellent clutch. It was streetable, made little to no clutch chatter, and would support the power I would be making when I convert to a single turbo. Without my tune, I have to be making less than 300rwhp, and this disk supposedly was used in their 800hp Supra.

So I put the clutch in(along with replacing everything else in the area... flywheel, PP, bearings, etc), and use it for about 2000 miles before storing it for winter. Super Bowl Sunday was a nice day, and since my Giants had made it to the Super Bowl, I considered it a "special occasion". But on my way back from picking up the food for the event, my car stopped shifting while running. I could shift when the car was off, and even start it in gear, I just couldn't change gears if the car was on. Thinking it was a throwout bearing, a friend and I drop the tranny. Come to find out, the clutch became welded to the flywheel. Not only that, but this garbage clutch disintegrated ON TO the flywheel, as well as chewing deep grooves into it. Now I have mountains of clutch material welded on my flywheel, along with a worthless clutch. Just take a look at how deep the chunks missing from the clutch are... and the pictures don't even do it justice, the chunks missing are far larger than they appear in the photos...

Do you think I can just resurface the flywheel, or will I have to buy a new one? Should HPFs be liable to alleviate this situation, considering it has now cost me hundreds upon hundreds of dollars to fix this?

And a VERY special THANK YOU to Alex(ALNY93R1) for driving almost an hour to my town on his day off to help me drop my tranny, it is very much appreciated!:icon_tup:

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[WankelPwr93]

Whats up A-Rod , its me Alex. I joined this forum with a different name. Hopefully you can get that flywheel resurfaced.

[blwnrtr93]

I'd try resurfacing it first. The machine shop will either refuse to do it outright if it's FUBAR or make an attempt which shouldn't cost much. If it's not good at least you know you tried before spending the $ on a new one.

[circuit theory]

Have you called HPF's? This could be a common problem or it could be completely random. Either way it is worth your time and money to give them a call and see what they have to say about it.

Hopefully they will have a solution to this!

[fikren]

Have you called HPF's? This could be a common problem or it could be completely random. Either way it is worth your time and money to give them a call and see what they have to say about it.

Hopefully they will have a solution to this!
+1, if they are a stand up business they should at a minimum refund your money or replace the parts since it clearly didn't hold up to their claims.

Of course the could be another non caring, out for the almight dollar, screw the consumer, business and tell you tough shit.

Only one way to find out.

[MADDSLOW]

The reason I went with the 6 puck was because I was planning on upgrading to a single turbo in April. With all of the ridiculous, non-rotary related engine problems I've been having to shell out money for, it's clearly not going to happen now. I don't know if you remember my "blown coolant seal" thread, but that fuckin thermostat set me back big.

I hope they're decent guys, because this is completely unacceptable. Whether it was the "correct" clutch for my hp or not, theres NO excuse for it breaking up and destroying things the way it did. I'll find out tomorrow...

[SLOASFK]

Correct me if I'm wrong, MADDSLOW, but isn't this exactly what Ihor said is a common occurance for people who use puck clutches on street cars? Before you even knew what was wrong, he said it's not uncommon for puck clutches to get welded to the flywheel because driving them on the street requires a lot of riding the clutch and they are very hard on the drivetrain.

I think the only one to blame for this is numero uno.

Here's what Ihor said when you first made a thread about the problem, before the Superbowl:
How does the pedal feel? If its not the clutch fork or clutch hydraulics issue, then you may have sized the disk to the flywheel from slipping it too much. This is why I hate 6 puck clutches for the street. You don't need one anywhere near your power levels. Last car I had that happen to I started it in gear a few times and the jerks were enough to break the clutch loose.

Probably fused the clutch onto the flywheel from slipping it too much. 6 puck clutches, even when sprung are pretty difficult to drive smoothly on the street. I would get rid of that 6 puck. Your flywheel is probably chewed up to so you should at least have it cut or the clutch may chatter.



And I'm not trying to come down on you or attack you, but it seems like every time your car has an issue, you blame it on the manufaturer. I know as well as anyone that these cars can strain your budget, but sometimes you just need to suck it up and look at the man in the mirror as the root of the problems.

[MADDSLOW]

I know many people making great power using 6 puck clutches on the street. In fact, most of the FDs in my county are using them(as DDs, even). For the power levels I was going to be making after my single, the S/S would very likely not have been enough. Many of the other problems I have had HAVE been the fault of the manufacturer; in fact, I can't even think of one occurrence where it hasn't been. The clutch was not ridden hard, I became very experienced in dropping it at the perfect RPM w/o riding it.

I usually evaluate my decisions very carefully before I use a product, unless I am in an extreme rush. This case was no different. The man in the mirror was NOT the root of this problem.

[FreeLance]

I run my 6-puck and have no problems on the street...???