Rice Racing M&W CDI COP Set-up

[RICE RACING]

I might need an adapter for the m&w set but I will e-mail you when I get closer...

M&W version is complete with the RR specification M&W CDI boxes & coils, its a complete system.

The only one I will still make the Adaptor for is the shitty Inductive coils, again that is as required basis, lots of people are harassing me about them still so I will accommodate them, I will NOT be offering a full kit for them though.

My 'kit' is only for the option I recommend and personally use/recommend.
M&W CDI

[chibikougan]

Do Want! I will e-mail you.

[silverfdturbo6port]

Pm'd and email sent. Need a set of adaptors for my smart coils on my 20b. Great lookin stuff! Cant wait to show it off.

[RICE RACING]

E-Mails sent just now, thanks.

Peter

[RICE RACING]

Anyone else wanting the COP Adaptors will need to email me today and pay to get them done in this batch. thanks.

[infernosg]

Anyone else wanting the COP Adaptors will need to email me today and pay to get them done in this batch. thanks.

Email sent!

[RICE RACING]

Replied :)

[RICE RACING]

So a few people have asked me 'why' no inferior coil set ups being offered.
Put simply the c-u-n-t-s do NOT WORK!

You just can NOT run the engine the way it needs to be run when using shitty inductive coils on a rotary engine. Sure some people do, but its not recommended as you WILL have to reduce the fuel amount and increase the ignition timing to dangerous levels ALL so you can fire the plug at a lower chamber pressure earlier in the cycle, ALL of this is BAD NEWS for long term durability, especially when you have to run your engine near 12.0:1 AFR at 30psi boost pressure and 700bhp on a 13B.

Each person can do what they like, but I will not be selling nor recommending a full on kit based of shit that tunes you rather than you tuning it ;)

Thus the full kit was dropped in that version, you can still buy the Adaptors which I will supply to people who want to do their own thing and currently have the latest versions being made for various customers ;)

Peter

[RETed]

So a few people have asked me 'why' no inferior coil set ups being offered.
Put simply the c-u-n-t-s do NOT WORK!

Don't you feel like a broken record AND banging your head on the wall... :D


-Ted

[RICE RACING]

Don't you feel like a broken record AND banging your head on the wall... :D


-Ted

Yes its FUCKED! :puke:

I don't know if it "I bought it syndrome" and its the best or what the fuck is going on? but the level of retard in general is frightening. I just had discussion with Japanese customer/shop and they understand. WTF people waste their time with inductive snake oil that never works on a rotary is totally beyond me.

The saying you can lead a horse to water............ but if it don't drink shoot the c-u-n-t and sell it as pet food is applicable to anyone promoting those totally shit house coils! Well its relative for a low powered application they may do, but again in my experience having to fix others fuck up's they wont even work at low power/boost, without misfiring so I say again what is the point of running the shit?

May as well rip the motor out and do a Coward Holeman :Chevy_anim:

[chibikougan]

Don't forget the Glue!:rofl:

[RICE RACING]

someone say misfire?
NOT HERE!
The TOP SPEC CUSTOM RICE RACING M&W set up, this comes configured with Hi/Lo switch input into each CDI box
150mJ & 250mJ
These are rated for constant use and NO EXCUSES
Tune the engine, dont let it tune you!

http://i.imgur.com/HR67z5r.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/8VtAoXA.jpg

[silverfdturbo6port]

So its safe to say the aem smart coils are junk?
What about ls1 or yukon coils?

[RICE RACING]

So its safe to say the aem smart coils are junk?
What about ls1 or yukon coils?

Its all relative, I did a explanation for you to your email.
Suffice to say it just depends what you want to do and how particular you are, for lower end applications they are o.k.

[silverfdturbo6port]

Yes thank you.

[chibikougan]

Gimmie!

That one has some dust one it anyway. Might as well.

[chibikougan]

Alright back to the corner then....:o16:

[C. Ludwig]

Why two Drag 2 boxes and not a single Drag 4R?

[RICE RACING]

Why two Drag 2 boxes and not a single Drag 4R?

Simple:

The frequency of firing on the 4R and capacity for cooling means it is not rated for constant duty use. *Thus drag only recommendation*

This set up is specified to be used constantly (after much discussion between myself and Wayne at M&W we came up with this solution), at high power using one box for leading and one for trailing up to any rpm you can use on a rotary its designed to be used ALL the time :)

long distance race, easy.
drive 6 hours to an event, RACE, drive back home, all not a problem with this set up :)
Comes with custom switched Lo/Hi so it wont eat plugs when the full power is not required but enough to fire anything you can throw at it.

[RICE RACING]

Latest batch of COP adaptors will be finished next week ready to send out. Will email those that have ordered them then.

[RICE RACING]

COPS finished sending them tomorrow! :hurray:

[RICE RACING]

The ULTIMATE!

http://i.imgur.com/DCqk7Dz.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Oq23HKq.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/3aUH8th.jpg

[RICE RACING]

Sold the last one of these today, if people want more would need at least 5 before I make another batch as too busy with making apex seals.

[silverfdturbo6port]

What is bolted to those housings?

[t_g_farrell]

Those look like a piece of art. Nice work!

[Prodigy]

What is bolted to those housings?

Those are fittings to plumb fresh cool water to arguably the hottest part of the engine... Im looking at doing something similar, but using 3/8" tubing and making hardlines...

J.

[RICE RACING]

Those look like a piece of art. Nice work!

thanks :seeya:

they work better than they look, once wired up right, one connector and one allen head bolt per rotor, very simple/fast, very strong and durable.

[RICE RACING]

I have 1 person lined up for these, need 4 more to get production run moved up the order, so don't dilly dally, if you want it get yourselves organized and will get a new batch happening.

[RICE RACING]

3rd generation and best version yet of the M&W 13-BREW Coil on Plug kit is done.
2 sold only 3 left from the new batch, best to email me to secure yours.

[Prodigy]

What did you change in V3?


J.

[RICE RACING]

What did you change in V3?


J.

Combination of cosmetic and materials/finishing and dimensional revisions.

I keep getting asked for 3 and 4 rotor applications and am in the midst of doing another design to cater for ALL rotary engines.

[dysfnctnl85]

Combination of cosmetic and materials/finishing and dimensional revisions.

I keep getting asked for 3 and 4 rotor applications and am in the midst of doing another design to cater for ALL rotary engines.

Definitely interested in a solution for 13b-re motors. Moving the coils from the shock tower in my FB would clean up my engine bay. Sub'd!

[RICE RACING]

Definitely interested in a solution for 13b-re motors. Moving the coils from the shock tower in my FB would clean up my engine bay. Sub'd!

A few customers have welded a boss onto the center plate, easy to TIG weld on too.

Will be a while before I do another design for other engines, there is nothing as elegant and simple as what I have created, the rotor housing mount is just flat out ugly and complex. So until I refine it *somehow* will not go into production.

[RICE RACING]

I have these ex stock now. Be quick.

[silverfdturbo6port]

Loving my cop setup! My bosch timing light fits on the sparkplug perfectly without removing coil packs

[RICE RACING]

Loving my cop setup! My bosch timing light fits on the sparkplug perfectly without removing coil packs

:) sweet :icon_tup:

[RICE RACING]

Loving my cop setup! My bosch timing light fits on the sparkplug perfectly without removing coil packs

You got my brain thinking for the M@W ones I will supply one extra spark/coil boot which is cut down on the end to allow that as a simple easy way to check the timing :) once done put back the normal RED full length boot ! :cheers2:

[silverfdturbo6port]

I am running a 20b. I cannot get it on the rear rotor plugs but can on the front rotor and middle.

[Pantera EFI]

Hi Peter, as you know, ARC Duration (your correct art of Spark Duration Measurement @ 380us) states a GOOD quality of current flow, there is a requirement of the Spark Instant/Length with respect to rotor position.

Your current design has NO resistance between the coil/plug.

The addition of a resistor there WILL increase Arc Duration, I good thing for CDI style ignition.

Would it be possible to add a small resistor inline ?

I truly would like you to achieve best performance from the IGN-1CD (early) coil.

Lance

[chibikougan]

Hi Peter, as you know, ARC Duration (your correct art of Spark Duration Measurement @ 380us) states a GOOD quality of current flow, there is a requirement of the Spark Instant/Length with respect to rotor position.

Your current design has NO resistance between the coil/plug.

The addition of a resistor there WILL increase Arc Duration, I good thing for CDI style ignition.

Would it be possible to add a small resistor inline ?

I truly would like you to achieve best performance from the IGN-1CD (early) coil.

Lance


E-mail his website he doesn't come around here anymore.

[Pantera EFI]

Hi ALL, I am here to be of help, I see little interest here in the Spark Duration requirement.
This requirement is stated by Ricardo = 30-36 degrees of crankshaft rotation.
I believe they have not tested the Rotary.
This application is one of TWO plugs WITH offset firing of each plug.

Thus MORE important with the Rotary, the Arc Duration.

Any Comments ?

Lance, BTW my Alternator is up to eight HP output.