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Mitchocalypse
03-04-2014, 09:53 PM
Everything between ZNPerformance and myself has been cleared up.

zayrx7
03-04-2014, 10:12 PM
Rip you off seriously, you got all the parts you order from us plus 2 manifolds made.You didn't like the quality and bought something else, what do you want. We where just learning how to make manifold, so if you want we will send you our new design and better welding and you can sell it or use it. It's up too you this has been almost a year and you bring this up after we have talked about this a number of times.

Fendamonky
03-04-2014, 10:14 PM
Rip you off seriously, you got all the parts you order from us plus 2 manifolds made.You didn't like the quality and bought something else, what do you want. We where just learning how to make manifold, so if you want we will send you our new design and better welding and you can sell it or use it. It's up too you this has been almost a year and you bring this up after we have talked about this a number of times.

I think it would be considered poor business practice to sell customers your practice pieces...

zayrx7
03-04-2014, 10:17 PM
it was not a practice pieces, it was mig weld and he wanted tig

Fendamonky
03-04-2014, 10:25 PM
If you don't know what the hell you're doing, but you try it anyway, it's called practice.

If you sell said items to customers it is called selling your practice pieces.


If you had any respect for your customers, and pride in your work, then you would never allow such an item into a box bound for a paying customer.



My personal experience buying from you (and Jason) happened once, and ONLY once, back in 2007. Shitty shitty business practice back then, clearly you didn't give a fuck about me as a customer (even though I had just sent you $8,000 for parts) and honestly I wouldn't expect any more from you now based on your reaction here.

Mitchocalypse
03-04-2014, 11:00 PM
Rip you off seriously, you got all the parts you order from us plus 2 manifolds made.You didn't like the quality and bought something else, what do you want. We where just learning how to make manifold, so if you want we will send you our new design and better welding and you can sell it or use it. It's up too you this has been almost a year and you bring this up after we have talked about this a number of times.

haha.. really? was i supposed to like the quality? i've posted pictures of the crap a few places and everyone thought it was an absolute joke.

If you knew you didn't have any idea how to fab then you shouldn't be selling your crap.

I don't want your new design because i'm sure thats an abortion as well.

If you want me to leave a satisfied customer then you would refund me 100% for the fab work. I don't want your crap I just want my money which in a way you basically took.

I payed 2700 for a turbo kit. I received a turbo (value on your website = $1425) and some useless metal heaps. I then had to send you the old manifold back (along with many other things) which all in all cost ME minimum 150. However i did (somehow) manage to sell the crap you sent me locally for 75 bucks and felt very bad doing so and would have never done it if i didn't know the buyer knew exactly what he was doing.

So do the math.. 2700+150-75-1425 = 1325. That is basically the money I am out of pocket because of you. So now it's your turn. Tell us how I got what i paid for?

And should I post more manifold pictures or can you admit for once in your life that you fucked up?




And I'm well aware of how long it's been but time doesn't exactly put money back in my pocket does it? Do you honestly think i'm supposed to be remotely satisfied with my experience with you?

Mitchocalypse
03-04-2014, 11:01 PM
It is embarassing that's why I made changes, I never really took a close look at the manifold, because I was so wrap up in building the website and traveling out of the country

it was not a practice pieces, it was mig weld and he wanted tig

I like how you're defending a part that you made that gets mocked by everyone who sees it. This should be embarassing for you

zayrx7
03-04-2014, 11:09 PM
No! you got Turbo, wastegate, lines and fittings.
haha.. really? was i supposed to like the quality? i've posted pictures of the crap a few places and everyone thought it was an absolute joke.

If you knew you didn't have any idea how to fab then you shouldn't be selling your crap.

I don't want your new design because i'm sure thats an abortion as well.

If you want me to leave a satisfied customer then you would refund me 100% for the fab work. I don't want your crap I just want my money which in a way you basically took.

I payed 2700 for a turbo kit. I received a turbo (value on your website = $1425) and some useless metal heaps. I then had to send you the old manifold back (along with many other things) which all in all cost ME minimum 150. However i did (somehow) manage to sell the crap you sent me locally for 75 bucks and felt very bad doing so and would have never done it if i didn't know the buyer knew exactly what he was doing.

So do the math.. 2700+150-75-1425 = 1325. That is basically the money I am out of pocket because of you. So now it's your turn. Tell us how I got what i paid for?

And should I post more manifold pictures or can you admit for once in your life that you fucked up?




And I'm well aware of how long it's been but time doesn't exactly put money back in my pocket does it? Do you honestly think i'm supposed to be remotely satisfied with my experience with you?

Mitchocalypse
03-04-2014, 11:20 PM
No! you got Turbo, wastegate, lines and fittings.

My mistake, I forgot the wastegate and the cheapest possible solution for lines there is. You sell the wastegate for 350. Lets say the lines retail for 50 which is WAY more than they actually do.. 2 feet of jegs braided hose, an adaptor and a foot of rubber hose.

So basically you are trying to defend yourself by saying "NO!! I don't owe you $1375!! I only owe you $975!!" Well I will gladly accept $975 and call it even.

You remember my paypal? you can send it to the same one.

chibikougan
03-05-2014, 12:03 AM
Rip you off seriously, you got all the parts you order from us plus 2 manifolds made.You didn't like the quality and bought something else, what do you want. We where just learning how to make manifold, so if you want we will send you our new design and better welding and you can sell it or use it. It's up too you this has been almost a year and you bring this up after we have talked about this a number of times.

What was sent was indeed a ripoff. Both tube things with flanges!

chibikougan
03-05-2014, 01:10 AM
Any money or PM about a resolution before he left?

Mitchocalypse
03-05-2014, 01:17 AM
Any money or PM about a resolution before he left?

If this was directed at me then nope

chibikougan
03-05-2014, 01:28 AM
If this was directed at me then nope

Yes it was.

Just ignoring it. Could have squashed both problems.

Looking into it more he may have ripped someone on an engine too. Hopefully they can chime in.

Mitchocalypse
03-05-2014, 01:47 AM
Yes it was.

Just ignoring it. Could have squashed both problems.

Looking into it more he may have ripped someone on an engine too. Hopefully they can chime in.

He's far more active on the other forum. I'll try to get him over here tomorrow morning. (The one missing the engine)

Mazdabater
03-06-2014, 10:36 PM
Oh look he's in the bad vendor part of rx7 club too! http://m.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=1058475

zayrx7
03-07-2014, 10:07 AM
He's far more active on the other forum. I'll try to get him over here tomorrow morning. (The one missing the engine)

Screw you Mitch! no one is missing an engine, customer got his engine it was shipped to Canada. Shipping to Canada is a pain in the ass now, with all the duties,taxes and restrictions your Government put on USA. You can keep posting all of this crap all you want, posting closeup of welds. If you didn't want the manifold you should have asked for your money back after you received it. Our last conversation was the manifold was ok to use, you can't ask for money back after a year. You decided to sell the manifold for cheap, The parts along to make the manifold was $300-$350 I'm done with this crap from you. My company is not a scammer, we have never took anyone money and not delivered parts too them. You order $5000.00 worth of parts and you received all your parts, which you stated was Ok! You keep posting that my shop is a scammer and we are going to have to do something about that real soon. We have a lot of customers that are very happy with our work, we have a tone of pictures on our facebook page znperformance that proves our work.

Mitchocalypse
03-07-2014, 10:31 AM
Screw you Mitch! no one is missing an engine, customer got his engine it was shipped to Canada. Shipping to Canada is a pain in the ass now, with all the duties,taxes and restrictions your Government put on USA. You can keep posting all of this crap all you want, posting closeup of welds. If you didn't want the manifold you should have asked for your money back after you received it. Our last conversation was the manifold was ok to use, you can't ask for money back after a year. You decided to sell the manifold for cheap, The parts along to make the manifold was $300-$350 I'm done with this crap from you. My company is not a scammer, we have never took anyone money and not delivered parts too them. You order $5000.00 worth of parts and you received all your parts, which you stated was Ok! You keep posting that my shop is a scammer and we are going to have to do something about that real soon. We have a lot of customers that are very happy with our work, we have a tone of pictures on our facebook page znperformance that proves our work.


Screw me? Id say you've already done that, no? And seeing as I'm obviously the one with an education here, including what is essentially a minor in business law, I guess I'll need to be the one to bring up the fact that in any wrongful business transaction, the plaintiff has a limitation period of 2 YEARS from the date he or she discovers the cause of action.

So actually your claims of "it's been a year, can you please shut up," are completely unjustified.

You ripped me off and you are doing nothing to try to fix the problem. Would you like me to post positive reviews of your business? Cause I don't see that happening any time soon.. Unless you know, you refund the money that you ripped me off.

(It's funny, in one of the threads we even basically agreed on a value you should be owing me but now you're just trying to say you owe me nothing. Which obviously isn't true)

chibikougan
03-07-2014, 01:53 PM
Screw you Mitch! no one is missing an engine, customer got his engine it was shipped to Canada. Shipping to Canada is a pain in the ass now, with all the duties,taxes and restrictions your Government put on USA. You can keep posting all of this crap all you want, posting closeup of welds. If you didn't want the manifold you should have asked for your money back after you received it. Our last conversation was the manifold was ok to use, you can't ask for money back after a year. You decided to sell the manifold for cheap, The parts along to make the manifold was $300-$350 I'm done with this crap from you. My company is not a scammer, we have never took anyone money and not delivered parts too them. You order $5000.00 worth of parts and you received all your parts, which you stated was Ok! You keep posting that my shop is a scammer and we are going to have to do something about that real soon. We have a lot of customers that are very happy with our work, we have a tone of pictures on our facebook page znperformance that proves our work.


No you don't. I asked for pictures of a current finished manifold!!!



I brought up your shop is garbage not Mitch I brought up the engine which is unresolved!


You should not be a Vendor here!

RICE RACING
03-07-2014, 04:57 PM
Hey Mitch, I guess you should put up how good a vendor I am ?????
It's stories like this why I don't bother to advertise on sites like these, not worth the hassles really, cuuuunts know I am Don Mega anyway :) they pay me, they get the product, and its better than I say it is ;)

85rx-7gsl-se
03-08-2014, 09:06 AM
Screw you Mitch! no one is missing an engine, customer got his engine it was shipped to Canada. Shipping to Canada is a pain in the ass now, with all the duties,taxes and restrictions your Government put on USA. You can keep posting all of this crap all you want, posting closeup of welds. If you didn't want the manifold you should have asked for your money back after you received it. Our last conversation was the manifold was ok to use, you can't ask for money back after a year. You decided to sell the manifold for cheap, The parts along to make the manifold was $300-$350 I'm done with this crap from you. My company is not a scammer, we have never took anyone money and not delivered parts too them. You order $5000.00 worth of parts and you received all your parts, which you stated was Ok! You keep posting that my shop is a scammer and we are going to have to do something about that real soon. We have a lot of customers that are very happy with our work, we have a tone of pictures on our facebook page znperformance that proves our work.

If you wife/GF tells you that it was ok you forgot to get her something for her birthday/Valentine's Day/Christmas, do you believe her?

Fendamonky
03-08-2014, 09:19 AM
If you wife/GF tells you that it was ok you forgot to get her something for her birthday/Valentine's Day/Christmas, do you believe her?

He probably does... but then again, guys don't tend to care enough about stuff like that to cause a fuss. :suspect:

zayrx7
03-11-2014, 08:42 AM
If you wife/GF tells you that it was ok you forgot to get her something for her birthday/Valentine's Day/Christmas, do you believe her?

With my wife YES

Mitchocalypse
03-11-2014, 11:51 AM
With my wife YES

But with the 900 odd dollars you ripped me of you would probably get her something pretty nice though, right?

Look just do what's right and reimburse me. You obviously know you're in the wrong and want to fix your reputation yet you aren't willing to make an effort to resolve any problems. And no, arguing over the internet whether it's 875 you owe me or 925 doesn't solve anything.

Mitchocalypse
03-12-2014, 11:33 PM
Zavier and I have agreed on a settlement and are squared up.
Everything on my end is good and closed.

chibikougan
03-12-2014, 11:43 PM
Zavier and I have agreed on a settlement and are squared up.
Everything on my end is good and closed.


:hurray:

Rotary Evolution
03-13-2014, 02:49 PM
good to see things getting worked out.

hopefully Z learns from this experience, treat people how you would want to be treated and you will very rarely have any of these problems. sometimes you just come across a random anal dickhead but when you start having multiple complaints then it likely just isn't an unlucky coincidence.