New project: 1976 Cosmo RX-5 [Archive]

djmtsu

01-05-2011, 01:28 PM

NICE... nice find DJ. I want to do an old school rotary. After the FC, and the 'vert, and the FD, and the E46 :rofl:

What are your plans for powa!

Ditch the vert and FD and move onto an old school! There is a guy down in North GA with a bunch of old schools for sale. One being an RX-4 with great body and interior with a locked motor. $800 I believe.

Anyway,

The car has a 12a in it that was installed by Mazda back in the early 80's. So no 13B 4 port twin dizzy. It also has the 'better' electronic dizzy in it. This is one of those 'ran when parked' deals. He said it really did run great when he started to take it apart to address some issues. He has put oil in it and turned it by hand a few times a year. So it might be able to be brought back to life.

First off however, I am dealing with the body work and interior. It really just needs a few small spots addresses and to the trim put back on. The interior is in great shape except for the dash. For now, I will get a dashmat until I can redo it myself.

Next, I am addressing the suspension and brakes. I am under the impression that 84-85 from strut/spindle assemblies will bolt in, and give me many more options. From there I can get the RE-Speed FC brake kit. The rear end is where I am in the dark. I know it has factory disc in the rear, but uses a drum inside the rotor for parking brakes. This is not ideal. If I can get an FB rear end under it, I can again go with RE-Speed 5 lug axles and big brakes. From there, a nice set of 15's will be sourced (old school, or meshies).

From there, its power time. If the 12a is healthy, it will get a Weber carb and manifold, direct fire ignition, custom catback, radiator with e-fans and an FD alternator upgrade.

Right now I am debating on whether to keep the chrome bits chrome, or powder coat them black instead.

TitaniumTT

01-05-2011, 01:34 PM

There is a guy down in North GA with a bunch of old schools for sale. One being an RX-4 with great body and interior with a locked motor. $800 I believe.

I hate you.... I hate you SOOOOO much right now... I've got 2 13B cores in my garage just waiting to be torn down. Both with water seal failures.... I hate you...

Ditch the vert and FD and move onto an old school!

:rofl: I can't, they're both in my driveway. And per code I'm only allowed to have two unregistered cars on property at any one time. So I'd have to hurry and finish the 'vert, tag it, then move on to old school.... did I mention I hate you :lol:

The car has a 12a in it that was installed by Mazda back in the early 80's. So no 13B 4 port twin dizzy. It also has the 'better' electronic dizzy in it. This is one of those 'ran when parked' deals. He said it really did run great when he started to take it apart to address some issues. He has put oil in it and turned it by hand a few times a year. So it might be able to be brought back to life.

First off however, I am dealing with the body work and interior. It really just needs a few small spots addresses and to the trim put back on. The interior is in great shape except for the dash. For now, I will get a dashmat until I can redo it myself.

Next, I am addressing the suspension and brakes. I am under the impression that 84-85 from strut/spindle assemblies will bolt in, and give me many more options. From there I can get the RE-Speed FC brake kit. The rear end is where I am in the dark. I know it has factory disc in the rear, but uses a drum inside the rotor for parking brakes. This is not ideal. If I can get an FB rear end under it, I can again go with RE-Speed 5 lug axles and big brakes. From there, a nice set of 15's will be sourced (old school, or meshies).

From there, its power time. If the 12a is healthy, it will get a Weber carb and manifold, direct fire ignition, custom catback, radiator with e-fans and an FD alternator upgrade.

Right now I am debating on whether to keep the chrome bits chrome, or powder coat them black instead.

And if the 12A is not healthy? as an aside, 12a's suck... but if it's not.. boosted 13B-RE?? Cosmo for the Cosmo :naughty:

djmtsu

01-05-2011, 01:46 PM

And if the 12A is not healthy? as an aside, 12a's suck... but if it's not.. boosted 13B-RE?? Cosmo for the Cosmo :naughty:

Oh, I know, 12a's are not beastly engines, but if it moves it, that is good for now. And they are tough little engines.

I would love to put a 13B-RE in it. You got a spare you want to loan me? Lol (don't forget the EMS). I actually bought an S5 TII engine last week, but plans changed and I sold it to jfaplanet for one of his REPU's.

I am sure I can find another :)

speedjunkie

01-05-2011, 08:07 PM

Damn man, this is so ballin. I hate you now too. LOL

Congrats!

Herblenny

01-06-2011, 05:46 AM

Cool Project car DJ! Can't wait to see it!

djmtsu

01-06-2011, 09:02 AM

Thanks Phil.

Anyone hear from Rotarydave? I haven't seen him post anywhere in a while. I PM's him a few weeks ago and have not received a reply. Wonder if he is in Iraq again.

djmtsu

01-06-2011, 01:08 PM

Wow. Info out there for the Cosmo's is so vague, and somewhat cryptic. I read a post where a guy said he uses FC struts in the rear (which doesn't seem possible), and a few references to FB shock in the rear. Nobody has an upgrade spring solution it seems.

Also, the factory bolt pattern is 4x120. Which sucks. Now, if I upgrade the front struts/spindles to GSL-SE, I can get some 4x120 to 4x114.3 adapters for the rear (since there is zero info on an axle swap). However, I have no clue on offsets.

This is going to be fun! I wish I knew if Billy could make his subframe for an FB fit the RX-5. R&P steering would be the shit!

My5ABaby

01-06-2011, 01:42 PM

:rofl: Good luck.

djmtsu

01-06-2011, 02:06 PM

:rofl: Good luck.

Shouldn't you be off crimping wires? Or cleaning a fuel tank?

My5ABaby

01-06-2011, 02:35 PM

Shouldn't you be off crimping wires? Or cleaning a fuel tank?

At 1:30 on a Thursday, I wish. :( Ok, not really since I'm not looking forward to those. At least the fuel tank. The crimping won't be bad as I want to redo my tail lights and clean up the wiring. I'm looking at cutting the wiring in half along with making my reverse lights LEDs. Already have the boards made...

diabolical1

01-06-2011, 05:53 PM

well, i don't know you, but i'm thinking i'll hate you, too. :)

on a serious note, i'm anxious to see this lump of coal turn to a diamond in the coming months. good luck.

FerociousP

01-06-2011, 06:01 PM

well, i don't know you, but i'm thinking i'll hate you, too. :)

on a serious note, i'm anxious to see this lump of coal turn to a diamond in the coming months. good luck.

and what a lump of coal it is... I can't help but think of Ferris Bueller at a time like this.

djmtsu

01-06-2011, 07:51 PM

and what a lump of coal it is... I can't help but think of Ferris Bueller at a time like this.

You go take your hair dresser's rotary to the nail salon.

Speaking of which.......just picked this up today. For a limited time only, then for sale.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_OFjbTkyhkOs/TSZjp62u9SI/AAAAAAAACW8/l8h6eAagj5M/s800/IMAG0094.jpg

Buggy

01-06-2011, 09:39 PM

Welcome to the world of owning one of the obscure old school rotaries. Getting good info is tough. You shouldn't have a problem swapping the GSL-SE front struts in. Just need some of Billy's camber plates and you're good to go. The rear axle is a different story. I know te cosmo's have a 4 link coil spring setup with rear disks. I'd just keep with that setup. Try to hit up some of the aussies for aftermarket parts. I got front coil springs for my Rx-4 from Pedders suspension. They have a lot of products for the old school rotaries. Good luck man. Coming from experience, you'll need it..... But you'll be happy when it's done.

FerociousP

01-07-2011, 11:18 AM

You go take your hair dresser's rotary to the nail salon.

weren't you about to buy a non-turbo vert? and what showed up in your driveway again? Oh yes, a cat-printed silver car of salon personnel that only caters to blond hair, blue eyed people and hates jews? This is AMERICA (fuck yeah)... we buy asian cars. :patriot:

one320fc

01-07-2011, 11:32 AM

Good find with the cosmo, I will see what info I can get from my dad..he has 4 of them in his back yard!

djmtsu

01-07-2011, 12:50 PM

weren't you about to buy a non-turbo vert? and what showed up in your driveway again? Oh yes, a cat-printed silver car of salon personnel that only caters to blond hair, blue eyed people and hates jews? This is AMERICA (fuck yeah)... we buy asian cars. :patriot:

Hey now rapist...the Z3 is only in my driveway for a limited time (like 2 weeks) until it is resold! And you know that!

Yes, yes I admit I was going to buy a stock vert, but then I found my penis and changed directions. You should look into it.

:seeya:

FerociousP

01-07-2011, 01:31 PM

I am not a rapist. That's My5ABaby's job.

My5ABaby

01-07-2011, 01:44 PM

I am not a rapist. That's My5ABaby's job.:suspect:

djmtsu

01-08-2011, 09:47 PM

Car is in Chatt right now. Got a late start today, and didn't want to take it all the way home tonight. So it is still strapped to the trailer, and taking it home in the morning. I will get some pics of the way it sits. I can't friggin believe all the extra stuff that came with it. I even have the original price sticker!

Oh, I never said what I paid for all this goodness........$200.00

TitaniumTT

01-08-2011, 09:52 PM

You will rot in hell for that

djmtsu

01-09-2011, 06:15 PM

Car is home, and safe in the garage. Time to take stock on what all I have. Here is a little list:
-3 sets of tail light assemblies
-3 front grills
-2 rear bumpers
-2 rear panel between the lights
-2 front lower facias
-2 radiator panels

Some new parts from Mazda
-dome lens
-side glass
-radiator panel
-window trim (with the rubber gasket)
-new door seals
-new random trim pieces
-rear pads
-rear bearings and seals

The engine is complete. It has an aftermarket cruise control set-up. Not sure what carb it is running, I haven't removed the air cleaner yet. I have a ton of receipts, including the receipt for the new engine...in 1987. Back then, a 12a only cost $675. The entire bill was only $1034, labor was $300!!

Oh how times have changed. The original price was $6699.00, with the very few options installed, it came to $6874.00

Lol.

FC Zach

01-09-2011, 06:31 PM

Thats pretty cool.

djmtsu

01-10-2011, 12:57 PM

Here are some pics of the transport and hasty stashing in my garage. A winter storm was coming, so I had to slam it in there for now.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_OFjbTkyhkOs/TSswjdt1qjI/AAAAAAAACYA/p-CoAjY4PRY/s800/IMAG0095.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_OFjbTkyhkOs/TSswnS3C36I/AAAAAAAACYE/0Q5hEc_QxE8/s800/IMAG0096.jpg

Many, many tail lights.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_OFjbTkyhkOs/TSswuI3nI0I/AAAAAAAACYI/Fdpk0u66aAc/s800/IMAG0097.jpg

Grills, that piece in the lower section of the pic is the factory lip spoiler.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_OFjbTkyhkOs/TSswzbfeeaI/AAAAAAAACYM/9Mn5ANvde6E/s800/IMAG0098.jpg

Interior. Lovely Velour seats. Lol. Don't mind all the random trim pieces scattered about.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_OFjbTkyhkOs/TSsw5c_bMLI/AAAAAAAACYQ/4LqgmxonB_Y/s800/IMAG0099.jpg

That is all for now. I will take some more with my actual camera, instead of my phone this week. Including under hood shots.

Dazed and Rotarded

01-11-2011, 11:45 AM

Wow great find dj.. can't wait to see what you do with her.. think she will be ready for the gap?

djmtsu

01-11-2011, 11:55 AM

Thanks man.

The plan right now is:
-body work and paint
-FB spindle swap with RE-Speed Big Brake kit
-rebuild rear axle bearings and seals
-4x120 to 5x114.3 rear wheel adapters
-new seats, re-dye interior carpet black
-stereo install
-some 15" wheels (can't decide what I want)

Once I find out the condition of the engine, I can go from there with it.
If the 12a in it is good:
-Weber/Holley or some other carb conversion
-emissions delete
-bigger radiator
-e-fan
-FD alternator upgrade

It already has an RB Road Race header on it.

If the motor is bad, well, I will put in whatever I can find!

djmtsu

01-21-2011, 10:27 AM

This weekend I am going to try to fire it up. I am crossing my fingers.

There has not been much progress so far. I am getting that Z3 ready to sell, which is paramount since it is providing the budget for the Cosmo.

-xlr8planet-

01-21-2011, 12:21 PM

good luck dude, try to make a video if it starts

TitaniumTT

01-21-2011, 12:23 PM

Rotary swapped Z3?

djmtsu

01-21-2011, 12:31 PM

Rotary swapped Z3?

Lol, you're the second person to suggest that!

No, I picked this up from a friend for an insanely low price. It was a toy he has had for years, and never really used. The slave cylinder went out, and I was going to fix it for him. Well, he asked if I just wanted to buy it, so there it is. It is going to be sold to a co-worker's brother for a healthy profit.

But, if anyone is interested, it is a 2001 Z3 3.0 with 60K.

PS- If it were to be rotary swapped, it would have to be a 20b. There is a massive amount of room under the hood.

djmtsu

01-28-2011, 11:34 AM

Well, I picked up some vert wheels. So I guess I have to convert to 5 lug now :D

Two thumbs up for a $100 part requiring several hundreds of dollars to make it work. Sounds like a rotary!

fire85gslse

01-29-2011, 07:18 AM

Good luck with that project. Very hard to find parts for her.

djmtsu

01-29-2011, 09:02 AM

That is hat people keep saying, yet I found all the missing parts I need in a week.

Funny thing is, when you find one, people start coming out of the woodwork with parts available, and even whole cars. So it hasn't been difficult at all.

And since it isn't being restored to original, it doesn't matter anyway.

djmtsu

01-29-2011, 05:27 PM

Tore the engine bay down today. I never bothered to check, just took the sellers word for it, but he was apparently ignorant.

She is still rocking the 13B 4 port!

It is currently stripped down to the block, have some MMO in the housings. It wouldn't budge, and I didn't want to force it to turn over. The oil looks good, and the coolant looked excellent. The plugs were a little oil fouled. I will put up some pics tomorrow.

fire85gslse

01-30-2011, 10:51 AM

sweet

rdgt99

01-30-2011, 11:30 AM

What a good surprise! Can't wait to see how this turns out.

djmtsu

01-31-2011, 01:17 PM

Question of the day:
Weber 45 DCOE or Dellorto 48?

Missed a deal on a Dellorto, 45 DCOE's are everywhere for a good price.

Also, swapping in an FB 3rd member is going to be more of a challenge than anticipated. The springs ride on the LCA's, instead of the axle tube. Also it has a panhard bar instead of a watt's linkage. Charles wants to strip the axle and transfer all the brackets to the FB axle tube. I guess there is no other way.

Measure twice, weld once I guess :)

ChaserAero

01-31-2011, 02:59 PM

Mmmmm...this is gonna be fresh.

rx71king

01-31-2011, 03:58 PM

what a rare car ..... vary cool......good luck...

djmtsu

01-31-2011, 04:43 PM

Just picked up a Weber 45 DCOE with RB upper manifold. Need to either find a 13B 4 port lower, or just buy one new.

Now I need to get a fuel pump an regulator for this carb. Next purchase will be some essentials, most of which I can get from work, like a water pump, wires, coils, distributor cap and rotor, fuel and oil filters.

Next will be an aluminum radiator, and see if I still have my Escort E-fan. I also need an FC alternator, although I think Charles still has my old one. Once the engine is running, the chassis work begins. Then the body work/paint, and last interior.

TitaniumTT

01-31-2011, 04:48 PM

How much of that do you expect to have done in time for DGRRXI?

djmtsu

01-31-2011, 05:45 PM

How much of that do you expect to have done in time for DGRRXI?

All of it. Sooner if you get your ass out of bed and help. Slacker. :D

My5ABaby

01-31-2011, 06:13 PM

Omg what a rust bucket...

J/k. I went and got to check it out and it's fucking pimpin'. I'm really loving the tiny rolling windows. I'm pretty sure the FC needs those on the gigantic b-pillars.

TitaniumTT

01-31-2011, 06:18 PM

All of it. Sooner if you get your ass out of bed and help. Slacker. :D

Ambitious, that's for sure.

Sure, I'll be there as soon as the FC is done to help out ;)

djmtsu

02-01-2011, 07:53 AM

Ambitious, that's for sure.

Sure, I'll be there as soon as the FC is done to help out ;)

Well, since your FC is NEVER done, I guess I'll just see you at DGRR :)

I get by with a little help from my friends! Honestly, the most difficult part will be transferring all the brackets from the Cosmo axle to the FB axle.

TitaniumTT

02-01-2011, 11:40 AM

Well, since your FC is NEVER done, I guess I'll just see you at DGRR :)

:smilielol5: This is very true. I won't deny it

I get by with a little help from my friends! Honestly, the most difficult part will be transferring all the brackets from the Cosmo axle to the FB axle.

Have you looked at Curry Enterprises, or Advanved Adapters, or even Rubicon Express to see if you can just buy the brackets?

djmtsu

02-01-2011, 12:10 PM

Have you looked at Curry Enterprises, or Advanved Adapters, or even Rubicon Express to see if you can just buy the brackets?

You know, I had this thought a while ago, then completely forgot. I can probably get the brackets uber cheap from the off road shop here I used to work for. We stocked all that stuff.

TitaniumTT

02-01-2011, 12:31 PM

Would be a lot easier than trying to cut everything off and it would save the axle too..... backups are generally a good thing ;)

djmtsu

02-01-2011, 12:47 PM

Fo sho.

djmtsu

02-02-2011, 09:41 AM

So, now I am considering putting RX-8 seats in it...front and rear.

TitaniumTT

02-02-2011, 12:06 PM

I've got a bad back, and bad knees, and after spending 100+ hours in those seats, I never once got out with a sore back. I fucking LOVE those seats. My knees hurt, but that's becuase they just didn't move for hours on end and got locked up. I don't know about the rear, that might be a little wierd.... I'd keep the bench style in the rear which would mean some custom upholstering but would be pretty badass.

They are a tremendous PITA though. The amount of brackets, and mounts, and locating pins that need to come out are ridiculous... got plasma?

classicauto

02-07-2011, 05:47 PM

OMG how sexy is that thing??

Not as sexy as the owner.:o16:

My5ABaby

02-07-2011, 06:39 PM

OMG how sexy is that thing??

Not as sexy as the owner.:o16:

Sounds like DJ is going to get some Canadian luvin at DGRR this year. :suspect: Bow-a-chika-a-wow-a-wow-a...

djmtsu

02-07-2011, 07:23 PM

Sounds like DJ is going to get some Canadian luvin at DGRR this year. :suspect: Bow-a-chika-a-wow-a-wow-a...

Not gonna happen. Our favorite Canuck is going to be hanging with the Mexicans while we're at DGRR.

My5ABaby

02-07-2011, 08:16 PM

Not gonna happen. Our favorite Canuck is going to be hanging with the Mexicans while we're at DGRR.

Guess you'll just have to get TT drunk then...

TitaniumTT

02-07-2011, 09:16 PM

Good luck... germans don't get drunk... we get even :suspect:

TitaniumTT

02-07-2011, 09:19 PM

Oh, and canucks shouldn't go down to mehico... they're generally whiter and then therefore pull in more coin on the mkt..... Joe should reconsider his vacation plans.

Buggy

02-07-2011, 10:32 PM

^ I second this.

djmtsu

02-08-2011, 07:51 AM

Lol, I'm Swedish so I'm staying out of it :leaving:

Anyway, the Weber is here, the LIM should be here in a day or so. This weekend I am going to wire up the electronic dizzy and install the carb. Hopefully this thing will at least start this weekend.

Also, when I tore apart the engine I was a little concerned. I couldn't turn the main pulley, so I thought it might have seized. Poured some MMO into the plug holes, and let it sit for several days. Went out, put a ratchet on the main pulley bolt, and she turned right over. 3 good whooshes on all faces, so here's hoping it is good internally. At least that is a small victory.

Also, it might not have turned over the first time I tried because it might have been in gear. Maybe....

TitaniumTT

02-08-2011, 09:51 AM

:willynilly: :chug:

Nah, if it was in gear it would still move slightly.... unless the tranny or rear end is siezed

FerociousP

02-08-2011, 10:39 AM

unless the tranny or rear end is siezed

thats what she said...

djmtsu

02-08-2011, 12:49 PM

Zing!

What the fuck has my build thread turned into?

I don't know, but I like it.

TitaniumTT

02-08-2011, 01:09 PM

thats what she said...

Your tranny got siezed? That sucks... you filing a petition to get him/her back? ;)

FIBREMAZ 13 BEEF

02-09-2011, 09:46 AM

Nice find man!
If you happen to come across anyone that sells new rear brake discs/rotors could you please pm the info as they are unobtanium down here in Australia.

Thanks
BEEFY

djmtsu

02-09-2011, 10:07 AM

Nice find man!
If you happen to come across anyone that sells new rear brake discs/rotors could you please pm the info as they are unobtanium down here in Australia.

Thanks
BEEFY

Sorry man, same deal here. I actually joined ausrotary just to see about finding parts and such, and it seems you guys are in the same boat we are.

For being a top selling car in Japan, they sure are hard to find spare parts for. That is why I am doing an FB rear axle swap.

PS- Get me a sweet ass dolphin tail muffler!!!! (seriously)

djmtsu

02-09-2011, 02:23 PM

Small parts update:
-ordered rebuild kit and new soft mounts for the Weber
-ordered new gaskets
-new cap, rotor, wires, coils, plugs, filters
-RB LIM will be here tomorrow
-ordered a set of Pedders rear springs from Australia. ETA: 6-8 weeks. Hope they get here in time!

Buggy

02-09-2011, 06:13 PM

Ya hopefully Pedders comes through in time for you. I know I had a bit of a delay getting my springs from them.

djmtsu

02-09-2011, 08:44 PM

I'm hoping they come sooner than later. The girl said they were placing an order today, and that my springs were in stock in AUS. So, even though they give a 6-8 week lead time, she said they would more than likely be here in 4-5 weeks.

Fingers crossed!

djmtsu

02-11-2011, 03:07 PM

LIM is here. Still waiting on the Weber rebuild kit and soft mounts. Jeff20B shipped me a dizzy yesterday.

My tranny is just fine.

joeywimsett

03-07-2011, 09:33 PM

Hey,

I own a 76 mazda cosmo and have been searching for different rear end gears, anybody know where to find some?

djmtsu

05-04-2011, 08:31 AM

Hey,

I own a 76 mazda cosmo and have been searching for different rear end gears, anybody know where to find some?

Not really anything. I did a ton of research over at ausrotary. That is why my plan was to scavenge the Cosmo suspension brackets and weld them onto a stripped GSL-SE axle.

Oh BTW, the car is gone. Neil (Kansei Rotary) came and picked it up yesterday. It is on its way to Michigan to be restored, instead of bastardized like I was going to do.

Thanks!

project86

05-09-2011, 07:52 AM

Hey DJ i didnt see pics of this thing in the start of the thread anymore. Do you still have it? If so you should post a pic or two in my body work thread. Sounds like it might be a fun project :D

djmtsu

05-09-2011, 09:15 AM

Nope. The Cosmo is in a new home. Someone who will restore it to its original glory.

It actually was picked up a week ago, and is now in Michigan. Kansei Rotary has it, and hopes to have it back on the road in the next year. He was elated with all the documentation on it and overall condition.

If i would have kept it, it was be a bastardized street machine. Because of its provenance, Neil wanted to restore it. So off it went!

I've seen his other Cosmo, it is gorgeous!

djmtsu

10-18-2012, 01:55 PM

To be continued?

My5ABaby

10-18-2012, 04:45 PM

Oh lord.

djmtsu

10-18-2012, 04:59 PM

Stranger things have happened :-)

reddozen

10-19-2012, 01:50 PM

lmao...

djmtsu

12-05-2012, 07:38 AM

OK, so I got the Cosmo back.

Time to get to work!

Whizbang

12-05-2012, 09:35 AM

so it has come full circle eh?

djmtsu

12-05-2012, 09:44 AM

Yep. Worked out well for both of us.

This will be my last "build" for a while. Going to start simple. Put it back together and in good mechanical condition. From there, I'll boost it and the downward spiral will begin.

Whizbang

12-05-2012, 09:45 AM

i know how that its. Rally car is getting there. I have a merkur that needs soem things and there is this Rx2 for 400 bucks i really want to pick up.

djmtsu

12-05-2012, 01:11 PM

RX-2 for $400 you say...

..where is this located? :D

Whizbang

12-05-2012, 01:22 PM

the great state of idaho, in a field behind a farm house

FerociousP

12-12-2012, 08:47 PM

djmtsu

02-25-2013, 01:12 PM

Update:
Nothing really, although I did pick up another Cosmo, just waiting for it to be brought down here to TN.

Started tearing it apart!

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/picture.php?albumid=362&pictureid=2994

Then found some nasty ass rust in a bad spot.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/picture.php?albumid=362&pictureid=2996

This is where the front engine crossmember bolts to the frame rails. A leaky battery has really fucked it up. Notice that nasty looking nut/bolt there? That is a welded nut that has broken free and it seized. Oh, this also doubles as the front sway bar mount.

Now, this is what it is supposed to look like (picture of the other Cosmo). Much better!!!

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/picture.php?albumid=362&pictureid=2995

Now, the problem is, I have no idea when the other Cosmo is going to make it down here. It is all based on when my step-dad buys a new truck. Lol.

But there is some light at the end of the tunnel. I have found and test fitted all the trim and such, all there. Also I found the glovebox knob, which was a major source of irritation for me.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/picture.php?albumid=362&pictureid=2993

Other than that, I have replaced the wheel seals and cleaned up the rear diff, including the rear brakes. More to come....

djmtsu

09-30-2013, 06:48 AM

She's about to be sent off for the frame rust repair......

Stayed tuned (whoever is actually watching)

rx7 vinnie

09-30-2013, 08:03 AM

I'm watching you from the bushes.....

djmtsu

09-30-2013, 08:10 AM

As usual......

chibikougan

09-30-2013, 08:11 PM

Haha watching touching!

lilring

09-30-2013, 08:13 PM

djmtsu

10-01-2013, 05:51 AM

last build.. BS on that.. i give this a year at the most before you buy something else

Nah. Going to keep this one. Just because I buy something, doesn't mean I'm going to 'build' it.

djmtsu

10-10-2013, 08:01 AM

Need some parts:

-84-85 big bearing front spindles/uprights
-Electronic dizzy

Sad thing is, before I sold the Cosmo, I had these parts.....then I sold them and now need them again. Whoops.

Kisses ;)

FerociousP

10-10-2013, 10:58 AM

Correction: *CAS.

Quit playing with carbs. Johnny just bought an e6x for $350. From where you are at, might as well spend money that you'd spend with a carb towards going EFI, not as far off as you'd think!

Smoochie Boochies!

djmtsu

10-10-2013, 11:10 AM

I still have a couple CAS's. Problem isn't the cost of the computer, its the cost of everything else.

I want this car to keep the 'old school' vibe. That means ITB's. ITB's are expensive. Plus injectors, manifolds, fuel pump, regulator, fuel lines and in this case, a whole new fuel tank.

That might be down the road, who knows, even a turbo might show up. But for now, this thing needs to get down the road as soon as possible.

FerociousP

10-10-2013, 12:19 PM

meh. external EFI pump (like charles').

Manis/inj/reg/lines are almost free with the scene around here... temp manis now, ITBs later to get old skool feelz...

ext efi pump, 2 INJ gslse fuel setup, well thought out rigged TPS, and whatever manis fit... and you'd be "down the road"... (this assumes you have a center iron with inj bosses, which you'll prob have by the time you swap the bad motor out.)

djmtsu

10-10-2013, 12:41 PM

(this assumes you have a center iron with inj bosses, which you'll prob have by the time you swap the bad motor out.)

Who said this motor was bad?

FerociousP

10-10-2013, 03:19 PM

Who said this motor was bad?

just an assumption. prove me wrong!

:ummdance:

GySgtFrank

10-12-2013, 08:05 AM

:lurk5: Is this the intermission? Cool project, not many have the brass cojones to tackle one of these as a project. Why not use the FC front subframe swap for the rack and pinion and brakes? Or are the RX-5 frame rails a different width than the FB/FC?

djmtsu

10-12-2013, 08:12 AM

GySgtFrank

10-12-2013, 08:22 AM

From what i know, the FC subfrsme is too wide. I will be utilizing FB big bearing front spindles and struts. This will require wheel adapters in the rear, but thats fine. If someone would measure the mounting point width of an FB/FC subframe for me, I'd have confirmation!

Hmmm. It just so happens that I have one sitting in the back of the pickup at the moment. Be right back....

... the front mounting holes are 31 inches center to center and rear holes are 31 5/8 inches center to center. If Whizbang can shoehorn one under an RX-2 I would think an RX-5 should be doable.

djmtsu

10-12-2013, 08:32 AM

Time for me to measure now! Thanks Gunny!!

djmtsu

10-12-2013, 09:40 AM

28 inches.

Of course....

GySgtFrank

10-12-2013, 10:30 AM

28 inches.

Of course....

Whizbang welded a plate on the frame where he needed to mount the front holes on the RX-2. The rear holes would need a plate anyway to get it at the right height for caster. I would think the bigger concern would be whether the tire would fit under the fender correctly. The FC uses a wider track than the FB and high offset wheels, close to that of the GSL SE. I don't know anything about the overall width of the RX-5, but it looks like it would be plenty wide under there. He has a pretty good write up on this swap in his thread, if you haven't seen it and are interested.

It would be a lot of custom fabrication, but the results and parts availability would be one heck of an improvement.

djmtsu

10-12-2013, 10:55 AM

Yes, I've seen his write up. I just don't want to stray too far so that modifications are not reversible.

I wish I could get this thing on a lift, to show how different the suspension is on these, both front an rear.

Up front an 'A arm' style lower control arm, but utilize a spindle/strut like a 1st gen. No tension rod BS. Also, the engine crossmember is independent of the suspension all together (front mount like all old schools).

The rear is a 5 link, like a 1st gen, but places the springs on the LCA's, the shocks bolt to the axle. It also uses a panhard bar instead of a watts linkage.

Billy Waits was spitballing ideas to me the other day about the front. He wants to look into using the FC front control arms, but not the subframe. I haven't looked into it yet, and its been a while since I've been under an FC. My main concern with that option, is the steering. I would have to swap the spindles from left to right to resolve the rear steer on the Comso vs front for the FC. Of course, there is a ton of room up front, so a rack could be mounted, and the steering shaft extended, that way the steering is improved, and the FC stuff stays the same.

Now, what I was thinking, and I don't know if this is possible, is this:

-forget about the FC control arms. See if a ball joint can be used with the Cosmo control arms to use the FC spindle. That also keeps the FC strut. Mount the R&P to the top of the frame rails, since the engine crossmember mounts below the rails (this is also the sway mount FYI).

Ugh.

GySgtFrank

10-12-2013, 12:22 PM

It sounds like it is pretty similar to the original 110S Cosmo, but with a solid rear axle instead of the independent rear.

A saying comes to mind. "If you want to run with the big dogs...." :lol:
For what it sounds like you are wanting from the car major changes are going to be inevitable. Especially if the parts availability is getting so bad even the Australia boys can't get them.

One of the things I was trying for with my project was to use as many readily available "off the shelf" parts as I could. SA parts are getting harder to find and it will only get worse. It sounds like Cosmo parts are another order of magnitude in hard to find. Since you aren't going for original restoration, it frees up your hand to use other stuff.

The problem with finding a ball joint is that the FC uses a through bolt and clamping style of fastener for the ball joint to brake/strut lower rather than the more normal tapered and bolted set up. You would almost have to find a way to use the press fit FC ball joints with your lower A arms.

It might be possible to have a plate machined that would bolt in where your ball joints go (if they're a bolt in style) that would allow press fitting of the FC ball joint. Alternatively you could have some lower A arms made (or make them yourself) that would accept the bolt on portion of the FC ball joint.

The next question becomes whether you have the clearance for the brake rotors and dust shields with them there. Then finding out if the FC struts are the right length to allow adequate suspension movement and whether the caster would be altered with the different strut mounts on the lowers. Not insurmountable problems, but annoying nonetheless.

The rack and pinion would be the best way to go performance and parts wise, but you would be getting into difficult to undo changes to the steering shaft to hook it up and the mount for the rack has to be very solid. It could be done by building a new engine mount cross brace that would accept the rack in the right position I would think. Lots of fiddling to get it right though.

The Fox body Mustang rack that Billy used in his kit for the FBs works well for a custom Mazda application, since the frame rails are the same width between the Mustang and FB. They also have plenty of length in the tie rod arms to shorten them up a bit if needed. That and those parts will probably be relatively cheap and available for the next hundred odd years or so. :smilielol5:

djmtsu

10-12-2013, 12:33 PM

If oooonly I could weld.....

djmtsu

11-15-2013, 10:01 AM

Been collecting parts, disassembling more of the front clip and such.

FC front hubs and brakes acquired. Motor is pulled, and going to Charles' house so we can crack it open and see what's what before I make a call to Atkins.

The Cosmo is supposed to go to a friend for some welding this weekend, and I am going to get a new rear axle assembly........

djmtsu

12-18-2013, 02:09 PM

Well, looks like the Cosmo isn't going to DGRR, or anywhere soon. After taking it to a friends shop, and digging deeper into the front end, it needs both front frame rails. From the firewall forward.

He can't build them, and I can't find any. So, until I learn to weld, and then can make my own, this is going to be stuck in a shed somewhere I guess.

Awesome.

lilring

12-18-2013, 07:04 PM

Help me throw a motor in the 8 and you can take that to DGRR

djmtsu

12-18-2013, 09:02 PM

I have back up cars...

85rx-7gsl-se

12-19-2013, 08:09 AM

Rotary powered backup cars? Good idea lol

djmtsu

01-02-2014, 05:32 PM

Update:

Engine teardown courtesy of Adler, Charles, Johnny K, and I think I even see Foo.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYdtbM9xV8g

GySgtFrank

01-02-2014, 05:45 PM

Somebody needs to give me that REPU in the garage. :drool5:

djmtsu

01-02-2014, 06:11 PM

There's actually 3 there...

GySgtFrank

01-02-2014, 06:20 PM

There's actually 3 there...

You're a cruel, cruel man. :lol:

Ubaru

01-02-2014, 11:52 PM

Looks like a camaro and a bmw had a kid. kinda ugly but cool. An dont hate the 12a its not the best but tuned right they can scare the pants off you. my rx 7 1983 is probably lighter and leaks oil bad but it still kicks ass in the local street drift races. an noe that i have it hitting over 60 mph in a city block im happy till i get the 5 grand to finish my 13B build

djmtsu

01-03-2014, 07:46 AM

Sorry man, you lost me with 'local street drift races.'

reddozen

01-03-2014, 09:47 AM

Aren't there 4 repus at Charles' house?

Red, vert, turbo, and black?

djmtsu

01-03-2014, 10:13 AM

Aren't there 4 repus at Charles' house?

Red, vert, turbo, and black?

Not sure, but one might be a Courier, not a Repu. Charles can confirm I'm sure.

Ubaru

01-03-2014, 06:18 PM

Sorry man, you lost me with 'local street drift races.'

im a street racer. i do drift and tight course.

85rx-7gsl-se

01-05-2014, 03:24 PM

im a street racer. i do drift and tight course.

:awesome:

djmtsu

01-05-2014, 05:11 PM

Update pics. In no particular order.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/1HxRTwZnGhnvEhCBftJMZuL9dyAs-foIXHyd6h6N2l0=w253-h189-p-no

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/irf7gUoECa21HIKS6pBF0YCHy6C0itgcu_NgyNrvHH0=w253-h189-p-no

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/Ujprdolgqqtqa698sbIebuVgfQn8xRysLnGF7bdEHWM=w253-h189-p-no

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/mSbqsqUH1sfRbOKX55y570-Dk4e4xGiOCWIw3FzgWL0=w253-h189-p-no

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/v8iNzOYc7bU1y6ijUl31sVq_WVGscxbsFcm2lMhlxIk=w254-h189-p-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/YjtMZ0t5XcOCfzZ73PNuMY-7jD3KKeZ0tRtdj6f2Rag=w253-h189-p-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nbmtb2-ZeZj2noBzVOS7dzhtc8Ape1-CYQsrtuclXz0=w253-h189-p-no

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/K8cSRxUT-9erW09AopOXK94QWZ83Yfx8i0V6oCEevVQ=w276-h207-p-no

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/oasUw77HcD5Er8klr-MAFX7RyMeinQIbsKlIHxFinmE=w253-h189-p-no

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/30O9lNhaQ62QIiiA8V1IPDlzBVMaZufPtJy0zc94rFs=w253-h189-p-no

GySgtFrank

01-05-2014, 06:27 PM

Update pics. In no particular order

I thought you said you couldn't weld? :squint:

djmtsu

01-05-2014, 06:33 PM

Wasn't me :-)

A friend did the cutting and welding.

TitaniumTT

01-05-2014, 09:16 PM

Been there..... done that.... did a lot more though on the RX3 we had at the shop.... wish I had some pics...

djmtsu

01-06-2014, 06:49 AM

Been there..... done that.... did a lot more though on the RX3 we had at the shop.... wish I had some pics...

Yeah....about those pics......wish your boy wasn't so lazy and would have sent them...

:fawk:

TitaniumTT

01-06-2014, 08:28 AM

Yeah.... Me too....
Looks good though DJ... What are the chances of us seeing this girl in April?

djmtsu

01-06-2014, 08:52 AM

Yeah.... Me too....
Looks good though DJ... What are the chances of us seeing this girl in April?

That is the master plan. Engine is broken down and awaiting seals. Frame is repaired, need to pick the car up and bring it back home.

The rear axle is the ONLY major piece of work that needs to be done. Its going to be almost 60 degrees this weekend, so maybe we can get that done.

TitaniumTT

01-06-2014, 01:11 PM

Buy a heater and no more excuses :lol:

djmtsu

01-06-2014, 01:26 PM

Buy a heater and no more excuses :lol:

I have one! Last time I used it, it got up to about 88 degrees in the garage. Then I was too hot!!

Build problems....

djmtsu

01-12-2014, 09:45 AM

Repaired.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nEvECGTOESw/UtKzHTKjM6I/AAAAAAAAD8I/5L3oA-XEKg4/w732-h549-no/1511186_10152209441099739_1319665520_n.jpg

silverfdturbo6port

01-12-2014, 06:00 PM

I found a 78 cosmo on friday out in the country. He is interested in selling it. It ran when parked and is a really solid car compared to the other cosmos i have had. Its all complete and it looks like the interior needs most the work as its aged.

djmtsu

01-12-2014, 06:04 PM

Get that shit and share parts!!

(Seriously)

silverfdturbo6port

01-13-2014, 01:18 AM

Eh we will see. I just got rid of a 77 recently. I want a rx3 or rx2

djmtsu

01-13-2014, 06:49 AM

Eh we will see. I just got rid of a 77 recently. I want a rx3 or rx2

Yeah, I mean if he's wanting to get rid of it for a couple hundred, its worth it. Couple thousand, no way.

Also, I think I PM'd you on the other forum about a steering wheel, but you had already sold it :(

silverfdturbo6port

01-14-2014, 01:41 AM

I agree. Yea that steering wheel was out of it. I still have a set of louvers for a cosmo.

djmtsu

01-14-2014, 06:37 AM

I've never seen louvers for the Cosmo. I take it they look similar to the ones for RX-3's?

2gslse

01-14-2014, 08:59 AM

Seeing your progress makes me start thinking about working on my old cosmo. sadly I have neglected it for way too long.

djmtsu

01-14-2014, 09:57 AM

Seeing your progress makes me start thinking about working on my old cosmo. sadly I have neglected it for way too long.

Get on it! From the looks of things on Facebook, and on other forums, they are making a small comeback in popularity.

Or........hand it over to me :)

TitaniumTT

01-14-2014, 11:33 AM

Wait..... MC... you have a Cosmo?!?!??!?

DJ.... what are you doing for the rear end again?

djmtsu

01-14-2014, 12:05 PM

Wait..... MC... you have a Cosmo?!?!??!?

DJ.... what are you doing for the rear end again?

1998 Mazda MPV rear axle. 5 lug, disc, internal drum parking brake (like the Cosmo), 5 link (like the Cosmo) and has the ability to run an upgraded diff (RX-8).

Another bonus is gearing. The stock is like 3.63. 2wd MPV's have 3.90, and 4wd has 4.10's.

It is a couple inches wider on each side than stock. But that is why fender flares were invented....

2gslse

01-14-2014, 12:59 PM

Wait..... MC... you have a Cosmo?!?!??!?

DJ.... what are you doing for the rear end again?

had 1 for years. Built the engine for it and then had my accident in the th and got put on the back burner will do more to it when the fb is done. If you ever come this way I'll show it to ya. Thinking about a resorts to black cherry to offset the chrome and maybe swap out the 4 port for a 6 port injection like the rx3 for the deliverability and economy since its heavy and will be a cruiser only

djmtsu

01-14-2014, 01:03 PM

had 1 for years. Built the engine for it and then had my accident in the th and got put on the back burner will do more to it when the fb is done. If you ever come this way I'll show it to ya. Thinking about a resorts to black cherry to offset the chrome and maybe swap out the 4 port for a 6 port injection like the rx3 for the deliverability and economy since its heavy and will be a cruiser only

Heavy? In stock trim, they weight as much as an S4 NA Sport. That's not too shabby for something that is damn near 100% steel! At least that is what mine weighs.

Of course, the MPV axle and FC suspension stuff will add to it, but removing the A/C and many other crappy do-dads will help....a little.

JL1RX7

01-14-2014, 01:11 PM

DJ remember this is the guy with 410 HP 13b in a first gen. EVERYTHING feels heavy to him!

djmtsu

01-21-2014, 07:07 AM

My rear axle plan, isn't going to work. That bitch was wayyyyy too wide.

So, going GSL-SE with a 5 lug conversion.

Stay tuned, still collecting parts.

Whizbang

01-21-2014, 10:20 AM

well it is a cruiser car all told.

djmtsu

01-21-2014, 12:05 PM

well it is a cruiser car all told.

Sport coupe, because rotary.

Now the Road Pacer, that is a cruiser....

silverfdturbo6port

01-21-2014, 01:05 PM

If i recall correctly the 8.8 rear ends are almost a direct bolt in for the cosmos and first gens. A buddy of mine has a 350 in his first gen with a 8.8 and it looks like it fit pretty well.

djmtsu

01-21-2014, 01:17 PM

djmtsu

01-21-2014, 01:23 PM

For reference, the MPV axle is just a little wider than an 8.8.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jR3J-0r2OXs/Ut7DTX5m5AI/AAAAAAAAD80/5stAuBRoDi0/w705-h529-no/temp_5.jpg

It would work great for a widebody FB though. Centered diff, 5 lug, 5 link.

GySgtFrank

01-21-2014, 01:33 PM

8.8 is a heavy bitch, of course, this MPV axle is heavy as fuck too.

Also, it needs to be cut down on one side to center the pinion. Not going that route at this time. Also remember, this is a 70's Mazda, which means NARROW. Hell, a GSL-SE axle is about 1.5" wider on each side than the Cosmo, and an 8.8 would be another 1" over that.

So GSL-SE with 5 lug it is.

You can use the GSL axles and brake brackets. It will narrow it about an inch overall than the stock GSL-SE. I actually had Moser shorten and machine the bearing seats another 1/2" outward to shorten mine up enough for what I was doing, had to make my own brake brackets though. Still had more than sufficient room on the stock axle tubes to install discs. Overall I'm probably about 2" narrower than the stock GSL-SE track width (1" per side) was when I got it. Even this would leave you about 1/2" wider per side. There is enough room to machine and shorten the axles another quarter inch or so per side, but it would be pushing it to go much beyond that and would probably require shortening of the axle tubes.

FerociousP

01-21-2014, 01:35 PM

In the words of Adler..... Flares!

(and in this case high offset wheels)

Sucks its so wide. would have been a good axle.

djmtsu

01-21-2014, 05:55 PM

In the words of Adler..... Flares!

(and in this case high offset wheels)

Sucks its so wide. would have been a good axle.

Yep.

But damn, the flares would have to be about 5-6" :eek: It was look like an IMSA car, or bosuku.

The axle might come in handy anyway. Been looking at something else for the next project.......

Anyone want to buy an S4 FC? Cheap?

djmtsu

01-27-2014, 01:28 PM

GSL-SE axle acquired.

Cleaning side seal grooves is the devil.

djmtsu

02-21-2014, 09:48 AM

Still working on her. Slowly however, since I need to be frugal with money until I find a new job.

Engine should be built soon. Carb is rebuilt. Some surface rust and dings are being fixed. I also installed a new steering column bushing. What a huge difference that has made!! The A/C components are almost all out, just need to get into the passenger side under dash and see how the evaporator is connected to the hoses. I would rather not cut the lines going through the firewall, but it is what it is.

My5ABaby

02-25-2014, 03:18 PM

Post up pics of the engine. It's purty.

djmtsu

02-25-2014, 03:44 PM

Oh, OK.

Painted before rebuild.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14649&d=1393361070

rx7 vinnie

02-25-2014, 04:14 PM

I'm partial to that color combo myself.....
http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo57/rx7vinnie/c23283c0.jpg (http://s361.photobucket.com/user/rx7vinnie/media/c23283c0.jpg.html)

chibikougan

02-25-2014, 04:38 PM

I went with silver and gold giant metallic flakes dragboat style!

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b168/chibikougan/IMG_20140220_134907_zps8238ef8c.jpg (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/chibikougan/media/IMG_20140220_134907_zps8238ef8c.jpg.html)

djmtsu

02-26-2014, 10:38 AM

Time to start looking at wheels. Suggestions would be useful, but don't be surprised if I think your wheel choice is dumb.

Size is going to be limited to 15" in either 7 or 8" width. (won't be certain until the rear axle is in. PCD is 5x114.3.

Ideally, I would like some Enkei 92's, but we'll see about funds for those. Kind of need to be cheap right now.

I would also like something else old school looking, like Rota Shakotan, but I can't find anyone who sells them in the PCD I need. I don't need to hear Rota hate, I'm not a baller and this isn't a racecar.

http://www.enkei.com/images/classic/enkei-enkei92-classic-wheel-large-main.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYRfbSQe63oURXe_V5SpRjbl6Gf9Mq1 kaE71Uswg4tQR_PaQkn6Q

rx7 vinnie

02-26-2014, 11:41 AM

Love meshies.... Timeless look and would compliment the old skool well.

FerociousP

02-26-2014, 12:27 PM

Stock vert wheels with 205s or 215s. Cheap wheels, cheap tires, look good, Mazda centers, yes they are 6.5" but you have no need for more tire at this time, can easily borrow Curby's for test fit. Doesn't get cheaper or better than that.

85rx-7gsl-se

02-26-2014, 12:38 PM

I would consider looking into some old school domestic wheels as a vintage mustang pattern would work. Just my worthless 2 cents.

85rx-7gsl-se

02-26-2014, 01:10 PM

Mayba something like these:

http://www.customwheelsexpress.com/custom-wheels-by-brand-american-racing-vintage-pc-american-racing-vn47-vector-machined-black-custom-rims-wheels-p-1737.html

djmtsu

02-26-2014, 01:53 PM

Mayba something like these:

http://www.customwheelsexpress.com/custom-wheels-by-brand-american-racing-vintage-pc-american-racing-vn47-vector-machined-black-custom-rims-wheels-p-1737.html

Those wheels are HEAVY!

85rx-7gsl-se

02-26-2014, 02:27 PM

True, but you get the general idea. Besides, this isnt a race car lol :)

djmtsu

02-26-2014, 03:28 PM

True, but you get the general idea. Besides, this isnt a race car lol :)

Indeed. However, to make a slower car faster (quicker), lower the weight. Considering that the unsprung weight of the wheels is the greatest to overcome, I would rather have lighter than heavier!!!

djmtsu

03-12-2014, 09:43 AM

More stuff happening. Pretty much all taken apart, waiting on parts!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-po8y7nwlX1A/UyB5hW270JI/AAAAAAAAD-8/WUSoKtfZIE8/w732-h549-no/FB_IMG_13944724582818275.jpg

What is this malarkey?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZOuZiBomke8/UyB5oVJcv9I/AAAAAAAAD_E/LYukOy8IS1o/w732-h549-no/IMG956426.jpg

Looking pretty.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OM9t2DnIP_M/UyB5q-tVu3I/AAAAAAAAD_M/jW2IOmtVePY/w412-h549-no/1800274_608847752527950_1219487058_n.jpg

Here is what is left, and what is happening with the beast.

The GSL-SE stuff is going to have to wait until summer/fall to be fabbed/installed. The front struts and rear axle need to be completely rebuilt, and I don't have the funds for that right now. Since I already rebuilt the Cosmo rear end last fall, I figured fuck it, I'll just run the Cosmo stuff.

Fun fact, the Cosmo rotors are bigger than the GSL-SE stuff....

The front is all apart, waiting on ball joints, sway links, and brake pads to show up. Trans is out and getting resealed. New Exedy clutch is here.

One issue that I found yesterday....the horror of fuel that sat in a tank for 15 years....

Johnny_K

03-12-2014, 11:38 AM

Pics of rebuild.

Rotor cleaned and springs labeled
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/johnnyk1029/4BF6F9F3-8129-43F2-91B1-61830F1FEA4D-37448-00000AF35D77F46B_zpscc7feba3.jpg

Permatex going on prior to Atkins housing o ring
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/johnnyk1029/F541C620-ACA6-438A-AFEF-097DDCB594AC-37448-00000AF360FFB806_zps981a4822.jpg

Carefully installing o ring

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/johnnyk1029/77A102CF-A95E-4AE2-A9FE-FB69C979F676-37448-00000AF363B5135D_zpsf4f4fc2e.jpg

Lubing up the rotor in preparation for the seals
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/johnnyk1029/26D253AD-54B1-4313-B8A0-528C23332A61-37448-00000AF3664AB4DD_zpsdecf14c2.jpg

Spring installed followed by the side seal
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/johnnyk1029/303A724A-A957-44D1-B03A-4770AFAC90F3-37448-00000AF368D489F8_zpse7e107be.jpg

Rotor on rear housing
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/johnnyk1029/AF8A2CB9-0A63-4B6E-A8E6-2DB53A9C52A4-37448-00000AF37E8AAFCB_zps646822e1.jpg

Rotor lubed for eshaft and corner seals and springs going in
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/johnnyk1029/1ED925AC-1389-440D-9D8B-AD8E82E13BA3-37448-00000AF38143D612_zpsd0380d65.jpg

Followed by the eshaft
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/johnnyk1029/F7DBC1DA-E4CF-4641-9488-B233A437D760-37448-00000AF383EC5665_zps2e07b52d.jpg
Center iron going on
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/johnnyk1029/83D2F539-8122-4A9F-BC75-2376B1DD3B67-37448-00000AF3869FD2B8_zps244b81a3.jpg

2nd rotor on, inspecting placement of seals
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/johnnyk1029/30BB2AE0-A4BC-4AEB-AD5B-8632373DE3C8-37448-00000AF39C1B7025_zps185867fe.jpg

Front iron going on

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/johnnyk1029/4CB12883-2444-4E14-882D-54C025EBA2BB-37448-00000AF3A357AE55_zps4902a4d1.jpg

How we ended the night
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn31/johnnyk1029/DB4CE814-4457-4DAC-A726-06355F8341A2-37448-00000AF3A03FA8C9_zps05afa305.jpg

jacobcartmill

03-13-2014, 03:58 PM

(this assumes you have a center iron with inj bosses, which you'll prob have by the time you swap the bad motor out.)

Who said this motor was bad?

just an assumption. prove me wrong!

:ummdance:

Also, when I tore apart the engine I was a little concerned.

Painted before rebuild.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14649&d=1393361070

so this is the engine that adler was messing with last weekend at charles'. the housings looked perfect!
so was it pulled, disassembled, cleaned, painted, and put it back together with the original hard seals? why all that work if the engine was good?

not hating, just curious. edit: i'm awaiting an update here with this thing running.

FerociousP

03-13-2014, 04:07 PM

Those housings did look great. I wonder how much the PO paid for them when the engine was first rebuilt...

djmtsu

03-13-2014, 04:10 PM

Two reasons why it was pulled.

1). It sat for 15 years (with periodic oil squirt and turns) so even though it had relatively few miles on it, I was concerned the oil control rings would be toast, and they were.

2) Charles and Adler are good men. I'll leave it at that.

djmtsu

03-13-2014, 04:12 PM

:troll:Those housings did look great. I wonder how much the PO paid for them when the engine was first rebuilt...

I used to have the receipt.

$837 for the rebuild in 1988 money.

EDIT: Online inflation calculator says it would cost $1655.01 in 2014 money.

FerociousP

03-13-2014, 04:25 PM

jacobcartmill

03-13-2014, 04:29 PM

DJ, i will go to deal's gap if you get this thing running.

djmtsu

03-13-2014, 04:29 PM

Yeah, I don't know how often the PO turned it (he said every 6 months), but I turned it every month using a squirt of MMO. Also, when Neal had it for that year and a half, I don't know if it was ever turned over. But yes, when I got the text from Charles, stating that the irons/housings were perfect, and the apex seals were in 'new' spec, I was quite happy.

So far, I am waiting on a couple things to be ready to go. I need to buy some fuel hose, my strut inserts haven't arrived yet (3/18), and my wheels won't be here for a couple more weeks. Also, this weekend I am cleaning the tank.

Waiting to be installed:

Front brake pads
Strut tops
Clutch slave/master
Brake master
Ball joints
Front and rear trans seals

Once the engine gets back here:

T-stat
Motor Mounts
New hoses (coolant/fuel)
S4 Alternator (ahem Robert)
Accel (I think) coils
Exedy Clutch

Then, its a matter of installing the radiator/oil cooler and hope for the best. I should order a fuel pump, but it looks new. I'm more concerned at this point in time with it running, rather than how it looks. Still need to 'tuck' the bumpers, and pick up a muffler (maybe).

I will probably have to do a driveway break in before DGRR. Lol.

jacobcartmill

03-14-2014, 12:48 PM

ok DJ, my challenge still stands. you get this running by deal's gap and i'll go as well.

do you accept the cartmill challenge?????

djmtsu

03-14-2014, 01:33 PM

The challenge to get it to DGRR was set by myself, and motivated by friends who want to see the car, and are not local. That is the reward.

You are assuming I care whether you go or not.

jacobcartmill

03-14-2014, 10:24 PM

a valiant and noble response, sir.

and yes, i am assuming you care.

rx7 vinnie

03-15-2014, 12:04 AM

http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo57/rx7vinnie/C59ABD5E-636B-4E6F-BB4E-0BCB1368E6C3.png (http://s361.photobucket.com/user/rx7vinnie/media/C59ABD5E-636B-4E6F-BB4E-0BCB1368E6C3.png.html)
Sorry man......that's the first thing that came to mind lol.

djmtsu

03-15-2014, 08:58 AM

Worked on a few things yesterday, mostly involving cleaning the fuel system.

The tank had about 5-6 gallons of fuel in it......from 1999......

Filler neck, gas cap, and inside of the tank were all very crusty looking. So, I had some Evapo-Rust I had been playing with for a while for smaller parts, and it worked well.

Soaked the filler neck, cap and fuel level sender in it overnight. All came out minty clean and looking brand new. This stuff works awesome. It is expensive though, put I went ahead and ordered a 5 gallon bucket for the tank. All sealed up, I dumped 5 gallons into it, and have started the process of soaking/rotating/soaking/rotating. Sunday I will dump out the Evapo-Rust through a strainer, and then dump it back in and repeat the process.

Seriously, this stuff works. Adler and Charles were amazed when they saw the results of the filler neck.

Some other bonuses of it:
-no odor
-biodegradable
-non-toxic
-reusable (as it gets older, it just takes longer).

Other things done:
-new motor mounts installed
-new trans seals installed
-new clutch installed

FerociousP

03-15-2014, 09:05 AM

pics!

djmtsu

03-17-2014, 02:11 PM

The Cosmo lower ball joints are threaded in, not pressed. The SST for the job is NLA (of course). I've been trying to use a pipe wrench to crack them loose, but nearly pulled the car off the jackstands!!!!

This should be fun.

Oh, also ordered a new fuel pump, and all rubber brake hoses.

t_g_farrell

03-18-2014, 09:19 AM

djmtsu

03-18-2014, 04:38 PM

Heat hasn't helped.

These mother fucking ball joints.......

I guess I'm going to have to put the car back on the ground so I can get some leverage on them. With 4 corners on stands, I nearly had a major incident.......

FerociousP

03-18-2014, 08:53 PM

:uhh: Pics must not be loading for me... :uhh:

t_g_farrell

03-19-2014, 07:28 AM

jacobcartmill

03-26-2014, 12:34 PM

in for updates.

djmtsu

03-27-2014, 07:15 AM

Updates are as follows-

All parts needed have arrived, with the exception of the wheels, which should be here next week.

The front brake hoses I was sent are wrong. They are fine pitch, not coarse. The ones on the car still look good, but I'm trying to figure something out.

The rear end is back in it and ready to go.

The front struts require a special tool to take out the cartridges. Luckily, the service manager at my work used to be a machinist, so he is making me a tool.

The engine bay is in primer (mostly).

Trans is ready to go back in.

I took the oil cooler hoses to Patco to have them tested. They are good to go, so I don't need to have some made.

Since starting my new job, I haven't had a ton of time to work on it. But its getting there. Might not look pretty for DGRR, so it'll have that 'barn find' look, but be mechanically rebuilt.

85rx-7gsl-se

03-27-2014, 07:47 AM

Can't believe you have had this for over 2 years.

t_g_farrell

03-27-2014, 08:53 AM

The front brake hoses I was sent are wrong. They are fine pitch, not coarse. The ones on the car still look good, but I'm trying to figure something out.

Do SA front brake hoses work? I know they are the right thread pitch. I have some new ones laying about I can part with. IM me if you want em.

FerociousP

03-27-2014, 09:36 AM

Good updates. Can't wait to see this thing driving.

djmtsu

03-28-2014, 06:31 AM

Good updates. Can't wait to see this thing driving.

You and I both. Been working a lot lately, and the brake hose issue threw me a little off. Still waiting on that strut tool to be made!

Once the struts are done, here is the list to do in order:

Reinstall front struts
Install new front brake hoses and pads
Install new sway bar links
Install fuel tank
Install new fuel pump
Install new clutch slave and master cylinder
Install transmission
Install engine
Install radiator/oil cooler
Install new rad hoses and stuff
Bleed all the brake and clutch hydros
Fill differential with fluid
Fill transmission with fluid
Fill engine with oil
Fill engine/rad with coolant
Reinstall headlights, taillights, associated trim
Find and install a muffler (this one is roached)

Really, nothing there is hard, or time consuming. The 'hardest' part is probably all the trim installation.

The first week on April (6th-12th), with wife and kid will be out of town. I still have to work, but I will have more time to work on it. Also, Sundays are free, so I can get stuff done then as well.

If any of my local peeps want to help, feel free to text me.

85rx-7gsl-se

03-28-2014, 08:51 AM

I would lend a hand if I were closer.

FerociousP

03-28-2014, 09:01 AM

If any of my local peeps want to help, feel free to text me.

Next two weekends are completely full for me, and i'm not exactly local anymore with a 30-40min drive each way, but if it really comes down to the wire i'll come down to help later in April. :patriot:

jacobcartmill

03-28-2014, 05:27 PM

i would honestly help but i have FD problems at the moment. currently trying to fix my "riding dirty" status.

t_g_farrell

03-29-2014, 11:42 AM

SA hoses in the mail. Hope they work for ya.

djmtsu

03-30-2014, 07:58 AM

SA hoses in the mail. Hope they work for ya.

Big thanks Tim. They should work, one more piece of the puzzle, checked off.

FC Zach

03-30-2014, 11:23 AM

If work wasn't so demanding and having us work 6-7 days a week I would help. Till then I'll periodically check your build here, good luck bud!

reddozen

03-31-2014, 08:19 AM

Damn... I'm in Atlanta on business all that week, or I would be game. May be able to help that weekend the 12th/13th if it's not already done by then.

djmtsu

03-31-2014, 08:31 PM

Brake hoses arrived today. Big thanks to Tim. Not only are they new, but Mazda OEM!!

The strut tool is also fabbed and works perfect!

t_g_farrell

04-01-2014, 07:09 AM

Brake hoses arrived today. Big thanks to Tim. Not only are they new, but Mazda OEM!!

The strut tool is also fabbed and works perfect!

I figured you would appreciate the original bag they came in. Sorry they were
opened but I use them to very the SS ones I got as replacements.

djmtsu

04-04-2014, 06:34 AM

FerociousP

04-04-2014, 07:32 AM

Only issue I see is the possible need to put some load on the engine... and that you'd have to sit there varying RPM for what? an hour? otherwise you are just idling and free-revving. I don't see how the port would matter. Also, you are reusing bearings right? That should shorten the time. If some have done it before then they can chime in. what sucks it putting a newly rebuilt carb on a refresh engine.

Break it in on the caravan, and change the oil once you get there!

rx7 vinnie

04-04-2014, 09:01 AM

Man this is a nail biter!! Paul is right break it in on the way. This goes for all mid-tenn folks.... I will have my tool box and trailer if anything happens to your cars I can pull it home you just have to drive my car:-)

jacobcartmill

04-06-2014, 07:59 PM

starting it up on jack stands and making sure everything is cool is just fine. i can't imagine there's much break in needed. just rock it out.

in my experience, there's always very little break in time required. running for only a 5-10 minutes gets things to 95%+

85rx-7gsl-se

04-07-2014, 06:52 AM

djmtsu

04-08-2014, 03:40 PM

Still no pics. Because all it looks like is various stages of half assembled sub sections of the car.

This is the recent work done:

Front springs cut 1/2 coil

Strut cartridges installed.
-this was a PITA. The cartridges were a little taller than OE. So Adler ground down the cap nuts to take up the difference. This worked perfect, but was another set back.

Front hoses are in.

Calipers are disassembled, cleaned and ready to be installed. Just need to pick up some high temp grease for the slide blocks. Stuff I have is only good for 275 degrees. Then the pads can go in too.

All the excess wiring BS for the CB radio and cruise control is gone. That was not fun either.

Waiting on a lower shifter bushing and T stat to show up from Mazdatrix. Also scored a Holley carb and intake manifold, which should be here sometime this week. Wheels are supposed to ship tomorrow (maybe, geez). I've also been doing some more rust repair, and random tinkering while waiting on parts, or having something fabbed.

Disassembling everything was easy. Putting it back together, not so much.

85rx-7gsl-se

04-08-2014, 05:13 PM

Why would you get rid of a CB radio? Could come in handy on the dragon lol

djmtsu

04-08-2014, 05:20 PM

Why would you get rid of a CB radio? Could come in handy on the dragon lol

It had all the wiring, but no actual CB radio. Tried to find a vintage one that fits the hole, but no luck. Power antenna for it is still there though!

85rx-7gsl-se

04-08-2014, 06:02 PM

:( I understand. My mom's 1977 Cadillac Coupe DeVille had a CB radio lol

t_g_farrell

04-09-2014, 08:45 AM

Front hoses are in.

So they worked out for you then? Thats great! Hope we see it at DGRR.

djmtsu

04-11-2014, 08:00 PM

So they worked out for you then? Thats great! Hope we see it at DGRR.

They are a PERFECT fit! Shifter bushing and t stat arrived today!!!

So, here is what is on deck for Sunday:

Install shifter bushing
Bleed brakes and clutch hydros
Fill trans and rear diff
Install new fuel pump and hoses
Pressure wash tank
Install new front pads
Maybe install engine. I'll try it solo, but we'll see. Might need help!

Once the engine is in, the rad and oil cooler can be dropped in. Then I need Charles to come over and help wire the electric dizzy wiring, and S4 alternator wiring. After that, its hit the key and pray to the rotary gods.

I have no doubt the engine is nothing other than perfect. Adler and Charles did a great job on this engine. It really is on me for performing the rest of the work to make it run. Hopefully I won't need to call for a 'All hands on deck' to make this thing ready to go. Everyone else around here are also on a time crunch to get their cars ready for DGRR.

I know alot of people are counting on this POS to show up at DGRR, and I really don't want to disappoint.

85rx-7gsl-se

04-11-2014, 09:45 PM

You can do solo install. I did it on my fb after Charles rebuilt the 13BT.

FC Zach

04-11-2014, 10:08 PM

I cant wait to see this thing!

djmtsu

04-15-2014, 04:23 PM

FerociousP

04-15-2014, 04:33 PM

Some issues I'm dealing with now.

Can't install the engine on jack stands, the hoist can't get in the right position.

Driver side rear caliper won't bleed. Like, no fluid will come out.

Wheels STILL AREN'T FUCKING HERE.

Need to pressure wash the tank. Weather has been shitty.

Running out of time. Might need some on the double help.

All ya gotta do is ask bro. Just be ready for everybody else scrambling on their own stuff and the last weekend before DGRR to be Easter. :o11:

All moot if wheels don't show anyway...

djmtsu

04-15-2014, 06:21 PM

I've got a few tricks to try on the rear caliper. Right now it is soaking in Evap-O-Rust. Tomorrow after work, I'll blow it out with compressed air and hope the 'clog' goes away. All the other brakes bled out fine. Only had 1 leak where the hardline meets the soft line for the rear axle.

Trans is also up and in. Talk about a PITA when you're by yourself, AND have to deal with a driveshaft that has a center bearing (READ- it stays put and the trans has to slide onto it),

I am really trying to get it together. I don't care if I have to screw on the headlight trim, tail lights, and bumpers the morning we're leaving. It is a little harder now to work on it, since I work until 6-7pm and Morgan goes to bed about 8:30. What's left isn't hard, there are just these little setbacks that get irritating!!!

Oh, and dropping $170 at Advance Auto today on JUST chemicals. Enough oil for 2 changes, gear oil, pre-mix, brake fluid, oil filters, acetone, carb cleaner. Ugh.

FC Zach

04-16-2014, 02:00 AM

I feel ya bro, I had to replace that BA 3rd gen alternator you got me the hook up on and that muther F'er aint cheap! Even with an employee discount I paid $190. And I had to replace my starter for the second time since the previous replacement was just as bad as the other. . Starting to wonder what classifies these parts as "Remans", seriously. . do they just clean these parts and throw them back in a box? Hopefully the alternator is good on the first try since it is order only. . if not I'll have to convert back to 2nd gen or the 7 wont make it this year!

TitaniumTT

04-16-2014, 07:37 AM

So, my wheels are delayed....again....probably won't have them until another week and a half.

Because of this, I have a question:

Would you risk running the engine on jackstands? I am going to need to break it in, with only a short amount of time to do it!!!! It isn't a bridge or any huge port, so it should be fine.....right?

Are you talking about JUST the engine on jackstands or the engine in the car on the jackstands? The first... I wouldn't do it, not worth the time needed to set up all the aux systems to keep it running not to mention the fear of it falling off.

The second - There is no problem with that at all... in fact I always do it. Every engine that I build where I have the car, I start and run at a highish idle (1100rpms) on the jeckstands for at least an hour. Shut her down, check for leaks and let her cool over night. The next day stat idling... Anyone who knows me understands why I do what I do next - Break in lasts for 1000 miles. For the first 100 miles I don't exceed about 3-3500rpms after that I up the rev limit as follows.
100-200 miles - 4000 rpms
200-300 miles - 4500 rpms
300-400 miles - 5000 rpms
400-500 miles - 5500 rpms then change the oil
500-600 miles - 6000 rpms
600-700 miles - 6500 rpms
700-800 miles - 7000 rpms
800-900 miles - 7500 rpms
900-1000 miles all the way to 8k. After 1000 miles change the oil again and head to the dyno.
I stay out of boost as well... or try to... one or two lbs at mid rpms isn't going to hurt anything as long as it's already been tuned.

As far as how long it takes to break things in, it depends on what's been replaced and which Apex seals you used... the ones I like take a LONG time to break in. THe most recent engine I built kept gaining vacuum all the way into the 800 mile range. Granted a good deal of it is done in the first few hundred miles but I also over premix while they break-in and use a lot of oil/vasoline during assembly.

What's the deal with this engine? What all was replaced?

Disassembling everything was easy. Putting it back together, not so much.

Right? That and I'm also fixing a laundry list of shit that has been bothering me for the last year.....

It had all the wiring, but no actual CB radio. Tried to find a vintage one that fits the hole, but no luck. Power antenna for it is still there though!

:(

I have no doubt the engine is nothing other than perfect. Adler and Charles did a great job on this engine. It really is on me for performing the rest of the work to make it run. Hopefully I won't need to call for a 'All hands on deck' to make this thing ready to go. Everyone else around here are also on a time crunch to get their cars ready for DGRR.

Really?!?!?!? NO WAY??? :Smilielol5:

I know alot of people are counting on this POS to show up at DGRR, and I really don't want to disappoint.

Nah.... we're gonna be disappointed if you don't show up.... bring the camry and we'll run on Hellbender.... see what the bitch can really do ;)

Some issues I'm dealing with now.

Can't install the engine on jack stands, the hoist can't get in the right position.

Reposition jackstands or use jack on front subframe until the hoist is in the right position then put the jackstands back

Driver side rear caliper won't bleed. Like, no fluid will come out.

Could be hose, we talked about this

Wheels STILL AREN'T FUCKING HERE.

Mine neither, he's HOPING for Friday... bastard is weeks late.... happy I am not....

Need to pressure wash the tank. Weather has been shitty.

Did you wake up to snow this morning and leave your neighbor a fresh pile of yellow snow before calling it a nigh.....errrr... morning? Than STFU!

Running out of time. Might need some on the double help.

That.....

All ya gotta do is ask bro. Just be ready for everybody else scrambling on their own stuff and the last weekend before DGRR to be Easter. :o11:

All moot if wheels don't show anyway...

Easter..... ummmmmm... sneeze... cough... I'm not feeling very well... just send me some Deviled Eggs :lol:

Oh, and dropping $170 at Advance Auto today on JUST chemicals. Enough oil for 2 changes, gear oil, pre-mix, brake fluid, oil filters, acetone, carb cleaner. Ugh.

Ugh.... I've got to do that as well..... 16 quarts of oil, 10 of which are synthetic, 3 filters, and about 2 gals of RedLine tranny fluid.... EFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU

djmtsu

04-18-2014, 07:54 PM

Received very bad news today. Wheels aren't shipping until Tuesday. Although, there is a chance they'll ship Monday.

So, it looks like the chances of it getting to DGRR is about 10%. Once they show up, I still need rubber, but that's easy.

I'm still working on getting it ready though, I have a glimmer of hope. If not. Next year.

Dammit.

GySgtFrank

04-19-2014, 01:22 PM

djmtsu

04-19-2014, 02:23 PM

Yes.

GySgtFrank

04-19-2014, 02:40 PM

Yes.

Dang. Stupid oddball size. I don't have any of those around, otherwise I could have dropped some off to you on the way by. :(

djmtsu

05-12-2014, 07:36 AM

Small update.

I haven't done shit in the past few weeks :)

Although, new tires are being mounted today!!!

Maybe a car party is in order to get the rest of it screwed together....

FC Zach

05-12-2014, 10:31 PM

I'm down, give us a date and hopefully I can make it! (not this weekend or the next)

Maybe the 31st or June 7th?

djmtsu

06-05-2014, 10:34 AM

Unless I get the engine in today, it looks like Sunday will be the day.

Should have it on the ground today. I'll get some pics of it with the new wheels.

:)

FC Zach

06-05-2014, 12:03 PM

:toetap05:

FerociousP

06-05-2014, 01:52 PM

:toetap05:

djmtsu

06-05-2014, 03:12 PM

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zMLGTXRgI8o/U5DQsFGuEKI/AAAAAAAAEgM/Xo5XywMVEvk/w962-h541-no/20140605_150033.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Oui4IUP4cnc/U5DSVqWZ8AI/AAAAAAAAEgc/NyruO6MnIJA/w962-h541-no/FB_IMG_1401999686678.jpg

Stuck here. Need help stabbing the engine.

FerociousP

06-05-2014, 03:20 PM

tilt trans upward. wiggle some more. re align clutch disk if necessary (and make sure it fits on splines while you are at it)

wheels look like they are sticking out. need better pics

rx7 vinnie

06-05-2014, 04:20 PM

You can stab it yourself...I do it all the time because I don't have dependable friends.

djmtsu

06-05-2014, 04:25 PM

tilt trans upward. wiggle some more. re align clutch disk if necessary (and make sure it fits on splines while you are at it)

Tried that, no luck. Might need to readjust the chain, but it would be just as easy to have someone here to help.

wheels look like they are sticking out. need better pics

They aren't. In the back there is about 1.5 finger gap between the tire and suspension, and they sit just inside the fender lip. Same for the front, but more room on the inside. They are 15x7 0 offset all around with 225/50/15's.

I'll get better pics when the engine is in, fenders are on, and the rear fuel tank and bumper are back on. There is still alot of weight not on the car, and the suspension hasn't been compressed yet.

reddozen

06-06-2014, 08:34 AM

Tried that, no luck. Might need to readjust the chain, but it would be just as easy to have someone here to help.

You have my number... I'm like 10 min away.

TitaniumTT

06-06-2014, 09:46 AM

:rofl:

:toetap05:

:toetap05:

Wait wait wait...

:toetap05:

tilt trans upward. wiggle some more. re align clutch disk if necessary (and make sure it fits on splines while you are at it)

Yeah.... the way we always did it was get a floor jack underneath the tranny to get the most clearance between the motor mounts and whatever subframe. An engine tilter/load leveler has always worked well for me. I've able to get my engine, bolted to the trans, installed singlehandedly.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/trd-9099/overview/

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/trd-9099.jpg

You can stab it yourself...I do it all the time because I don't have dependable friends.

Werd.....

A few tips I've learned over the years that work across a variety of cars.

Engine tilters help for larger engines or trannies.... IE installing a Jeep tranny by yourself with a floor jack, helps get the proper angle on the engine.

Head to the hardware store and get a few long bolts the same thread as the tranny bolt. Cut the head off and thread them into the lower bolt holes on the block. If you have a stud extractor, proceed. If you don't have a stud extractor cut a notch into the open end of it so that you can unscrew them with a flat head screwdriver.

Line up the lower bolt holes on the tranny with the now studs on the engine. Get in the engine bay, grab onto the block, adjust yourself so nothing pointy is aimed at your manly bits and thrust with the grace of an overweight 40yo virgin. Once the dowels are in the bellhousing. Lower the tranny jack slightly, install one top tranny bolt, remove the lower "studs" and replace with tranny bolts one at a time.

This worked for me when trying to install my Jeeps tranny.... there's no real lower bolt holes, only on the top of the block....

Tried that, no luck. Might need to readjust the chain, but it would be just as easy to have someone here to help.

Load Levels help but the reality is the rotary is so damn light and compact that if it starts level you can pretty much get it wherever you want it. I've been impatient before and not used the load leveler, instead took a piece of flat strapping and tied it to the engine pick point, then gone through one of the links on the chain to the picker, tied a butterfly knot in the flat strap (basically turning it into a 3:1 block) and pulled on it until at a better angle. See above about grabbing on and thrusting ;)

I'll get better pics when the engine is in, fenders are on, and the rear fuel tank and bumper are back on. There is still alot of weight not on the car, and the suspension hasn't been compressed yet.

DO IT NOAW!