hIGGI
10-12-2010, 04:39 PM
Where should i start?
I own this red FC since 2003, had about 28 other FC's in meantime but this was keeper. All others were usually bought non-running and sold once fixed or bought for parts and scraped. Or eventually crashed myself and then scraped.
Last 5 years it was running in this setup :
T3 footprint 1.06 A/R GT35R
Greddy V-spec FMIC
K2RD rad
Flex a lite black magic fan
2 stock oil coolers in series, both thermostats working
S5 TII block, rebuilt, streetported
Haltech E6K
2x 680 (GSL-SE) and 2x 1680 injectors
GM pump intank feeding fuel surge tank and Bosch 044 pump feeding stock fuel rails
Crane Hi6 on leadings
Apexi EL2 gauges (all 6)
Apexi AVC-R (oldschool, not the blue stuff)
OS Giken TS2A twinplate clutch/flywheel
S5 TII trans
TII diff with torsen internals
Some brake mods which could be found in my other thread here on forum
Racing Beat swaybars (front/rear)
HKS Hipermax D' coilovers
Apexi N1 catback, 3" downpipe, midpipe
and thats how it stand when i was running it this summer at Czech Drift Series 2010 (last race i entered was 20th of July)
http://smik.euweb.cz/photo/49_cds_most/01.html
http://smik.euweb.cz/photo/49_cds_most/28.html
http://smik.euweb.cz/photo/49_cds_most/32.html
Now, in meantime i found out one local guy (our club member) has a 20B.
He got it with bunch of other engines, he knew its value and he knew for sure he will not be able to get it running. His plan was just 'own it'. I suppose with the rising age, people tend to collect things just for the fun of collecting it, without being able to use it. When i asked if he will sell it to me, i heard NO.
Hmm. Well, lets try something else. By that time i had as well TII cabrio, very high mileage, needing new top, paint, rebuild etc. So kind of rare and valuable and kind of priceless and useless for me, without spending bank on it. It was best thing i could have offered for trade. And yes, it worked. Cabrio left shed and i got 20B.
http://rx7.cz/gallery/qdig-files/converted-images/3rotor/med_IMG_1909.JPG
All strip and teardown pictures are here :
http://rx7.cz/gallery/?Qwd=./3rotor&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=M
Yeah, it was blown, in need of new stat.gear bearings, 2 rotors and 2 rotor housings. My friend is honest and he gave me 2 good FD rotors and rotorhousings when we tore it apart and found out what needs to be replaced.
I ordered 3 new stat.gear bearings, 2 new dowel pins and some o-rings.
I was more lucky than smart and sold E6K and injectors from my 13BT setup and purchased Haltech PS2000 and 3 new white bosch 1680's around $60 a piece.
Since engine was opened, i did small porting on it, water jacket mod and of course, exhaust ports are all FD.
In august i had some spare time, removed 13BT, assembled dummy engine and started testfiting.
Pictures of that could be found here in public galleries :
Day one - http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=205811&id=698296449&l=3eca92fc38
Day two - http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207296&id=698296449&l=d237b8c199
and day three - http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207832&id=698296449&l=f48bbddfaf
Not all of it was final, but it gave me idea how it will look and fit.
These 3 days however meant confirmation of my downpipe/wastegate/manifold setup for my current turbo, which i reused from 13BT. Not the nicest job on making 3rd runner from front, but it works.
Since turbo position is same like on my 2 rotor config, intercooler piping stayed same as well. However, radiator had to be moved forward.
Everything else looked pretty simple, no different than any other 13BT build.
Now, from that point, i dont have working camera and pretty much no pictures, but i was not lazy and build the wiring loom, build and installed engine and thanks to BDC and Scott@Haltech got it running and so far have about 800km on it....
I am using stock FC trailing igniters (6 of them) to fire 6 individual coils (out of FC trailing coil packs). I had them, i used them.
For primary injectors, i used stock 20B 550's.
And for swaybar i fitted Z32 (Nissan 300ZX) one which i got for free. 27mm (my RB is 29mm, stock TII is 24mm)
Summer was nice and warm, i worked mostly outside in the shed and if someone will ask, i can tell him that 20B FC build could be 2 month issue even if you dont buy any pre-made parts specific for it.
How much did it cost ? I am guessing around $2k total now and if i will sell my 13BT i will probably have more money than what i had before i started 20B swap.....
I own this red FC since 2003, had about 28 other FC's in meantime but this was keeper. All others were usually bought non-running and sold once fixed or bought for parts and scraped. Or eventually crashed myself and then scraped.
Last 5 years it was running in this setup :
T3 footprint 1.06 A/R GT35R
Greddy V-spec FMIC
K2RD rad
Flex a lite black magic fan
2 stock oil coolers in series, both thermostats working
S5 TII block, rebuilt, streetported
Haltech E6K
2x 680 (GSL-SE) and 2x 1680 injectors
GM pump intank feeding fuel surge tank and Bosch 044 pump feeding stock fuel rails
Crane Hi6 on leadings
Apexi EL2 gauges (all 6)
Apexi AVC-R (oldschool, not the blue stuff)
OS Giken TS2A twinplate clutch/flywheel
S5 TII trans
TII diff with torsen internals
Some brake mods which could be found in my other thread here on forum
Racing Beat swaybars (front/rear)
HKS Hipermax D' coilovers
Apexi N1 catback, 3" downpipe, midpipe
and thats how it stand when i was running it this summer at Czech Drift Series 2010 (last race i entered was 20th of July)
http://smik.euweb.cz/photo/49_cds_most/01.html
http://smik.euweb.cz/photo/49_cds_most/28.html
http://smik.euweb.cz/photo/49_cds_most/32.html
Now, in meantime i found out one local guy (our club member) has a 20B.
He got it with bunch of other engines, he knew its value and he knew for sure he will not be able to get it running. His plan was just 'own it'. I suppose with the rising age, people tend to collect things just for the fun of collecting it, without being able to use it. When i asked if he will sell it to me, i heard NO.
Hmm. Well, lets try something else. By that time i had as well TII cabrio, very high mileage, needing new top, paint, rebuild etc. So kind of rare and valuable and kind of priceless and useless for me, without spending bank on it. It was best thing i could have offered for trade. And yes, it worked. Cabrio left shed and i got 20B.
http://rx7.cz/gallery/qdig-files/converted-images/3rotor/med_IMG_1909.JPG
All strip and teardown pictures are here :
http://rx7.cz/gallery/?Qwd=./3rotor&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=M
Yeah, it was blown, in need of new stat.gear bearings, 2 rotors and 2 rotor housings. My friend is honest and he gave me 2 good FD rotors and rotorhousings when we tore it apart and found out what needs to be replaced.
I ordered 3 new stat.gear bearings, 2 new dowel pins and some o-rings.
I was more lucky than smart and sold E6K and injectors from my 13BT setup and purchased Haltech PS2000 and 3 new white bosch 1680's around $60 a piece.
Since engine was opened, i did small porting on it, water jacket mod and of course, exhaust ports are all FD.
In august i had some spare time, removed 13BT, assembled dummy engine and started testfiting.
Pictures of that could be found here in public galleries :
Day one - http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=205811&id=698296449&l=3eca92fc38
Day two - http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207296&id=698296449&l=d237b8c199
and day three - http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207832&id=698296449&l=f48bbddfaf
Not all of it was final, but it gave me idea how it will look and fit.
These 3 days however meant confirmation of my downpipe/wastegate/manifold setup for my current turbo, which i reused from 13BT. Not the nicest job on making 3rd runner from front, but it works.
Since turbo position is same like on my 2 rotor config, intercooler piping stayed same as well. However, radiator had to be moved forward.
Everything else looked pretty simple, no different than any other 13BT build.
Now, from that point, i dont have working camera and pretty much no pictures, but i was not lazy and build the wiring loom, build and installed engine and thanks to BDC and Scott@Haltech got it running and so far have about 800km on it....
I am using stock FC trailing igniters (6 of them) to fire 6 individual coils (out of FC trailing coil packs). I had them, i used them.
For primary injectors, i used stock 20B 550's.
And for swaybar i fitted Z32 (Nissan 300ZX) one which i got for free. 27mm (my RB is 29mm, stock TII is 24mm)
Summer was nice and warm, i worked mostly outside in the shed and if someone will ask, i can tell him that 20B FC build could be 2 month issue even if you dont buy any pre-made parts specific for it.
How much did it cost ? I am guessing around $2k total now and if i will sell my 13BT i will probably have more money than what i had before i started 20B swap.....