FC wide fenders

[djmtsu]

Would there be any interest in some 30mm ventless widebody fendersfor FC's?

Originally I didn't really want to go widebody, but now I am interested in the making the jump. So is anybody else out there wanting something like this?

Sorry, this is the Sexy Style kit, and this particular FC is hideous, but you get the idea.

http://www.ziptied.com/Coppermine/albums/userpics/10046/600x450-2006092000026.jpg

[JKL Racing Engineering]

sexy knights........:lol: nice, haha

anyways, yeah, we can definitely do a wide body for FC guys, what about that Tamon Design Widebody kit?

Fenders
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o203/kevinlin22/parts%20for%20sale/rx7_002l.jpg

Side Steps
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o203/kevinlin22/parts%20for%20sale/rx7_004l.jpg

Side Panels
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o203/kevinlin22/parts%20for%20sale/e-10a.jpg

[djmtsu]

Personally I am not a fan of the Tamon kit. I am more about the subtle kits, not something that aggressive.

But I bet some people might want the Tamon.

Any chance on a subtle widebody?

[JKL Racing Engineering]

sure, any suggestions?

[djmtsu]

This is the Fore Sight kit:

http://lh5.google.com/djmtsu/R8IwUzq_XNI/AAAAAAAAAco/es6FCbThMc0/s800/foresight1.jpg

http://lh6.google.com/djmtsu/R8IwVDq_XOI/AAAAAAAAAcw/uJB0KHEex54/s800/foresight2.jpg

http://lh3.google.com/djmtsu/R8IwVTq_XPI/AAAAAAAAAc4/zgBTXv5DGYU/s800/foresight3.jpg

http://lh3.google.com/djmtsu/R8IwVTq_XQI/AAAAAAAAAdA/zGbwQup3jH0/s800/foresight4.jpg

[HellBent]

Id take a wide body kit, I need my FC to match my FB. any ideas about a price range??

[JKL Racing Engineering]

well, we need to know which kit we are going to make before we can give out a price. Usually we can offer package discounts also. :D

In most cases:

Front Fender: $350-400 (FRP)
Rear Fender: $300-350 (FRP) (Price will be lower if it's a smaller flare)
Side Steps: $250-300 (Hybrid FRP)
CF Panel: $200-240 (CF)

[1twistedrx7]

Oooooo! i am really thinking about it!

[JKL Racing Engineering]

great, we need more people though, I am thinking at least around 15. :D

[djmtsu]

I am interested, of course!!!

Oh yeah, make a Panspeed hood too!!! :D

[JKL Racing Engineering]

that's the spirit we need!!! :D As we always say, as long as there are more than 15 people in, then we can make virtually any body kits, as long as it's still accessible. :)

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[arkadyzv]

Shine already makes the Foresight 30mm Vent-less front fenders.

As far as kits go I would definetly be interested in the Sexy style kit, they tried to a groupbuy on the evil forum but it never went anywhere although there was enough interest from what I remember.

The tamon design kit is nice too, a bit wild but its original compared to almost all the other kits out. And no has yet to reproduce it so I'm sure theres interest. Price would be the main point, I think the kit from japanparts.com is about 1500ish plus shipping which isnt too crazy but if you can reproduce it, sell it for a good price and still make decent profit then it would definetly sell. People have been asking for it for a bit.

I'd be down for either, sexy style for the vert, tamon design for the GTU, mmmm mmmm.

[arkadyzv]

I am interested, of course!!!

Oh yeah, make a Panspeed hood too!!! :D

Ditto on this too, lots of people want it, it should sell like hot cakes.

[The Phantom Gallon]

Ditto on this too, lots of people want it, it should sell like hot cakes.

Lots of people want it, but lots of people also dont got no moniez.

This would be sweet to see another vendor besides shine making cool bodykits and designs. Not that they do it bad, just i would like more options. FC's have TONS of options which i adore.

[JKL Racing Engineering]

alright, then let's all make a decision, is it panspeed hood or SexyStyle widebody or both? :D

[arkadyzv]

I'd start the interest for both, see what developes. I can dig up the old thread on rx7club and teamfc3s and pm a few people.

[JKL Racing Engineering]

that would be great, go ahead and gather interests for us, just don't get caught :rofl: coz the mods over there will :beatdeadhorse5: the :9898: out of u until u :ack2:

[Phoenix7]

Ventless Widebody fender that IS NOT like ShineAutoProject's (I assume Dj feels the same way otherwise he would have gone with the SAP product.)
1.Djmtsu
2. Phoenix7 (interested if it can be made for less $ than the SAP copy)


Please let me know if my ideas on pricing are unrealistic. I really don't know the value/cost. I just know my budget and what it allows.

[djmtsu]

Yes, I am still interested. I guess some peeps be broke these days (including me). I still have to pay for my TII front spoiler!! (come on taxes......GET HERE!!)

[Phoenix7]

OH CRAP! TAXES! I forgot! Thanks man. Yeah, I just blew money on a haltech and other parts but I don't wanna miss out on wide ventless fenders and PANSPEED HOOD at reasonable prices.

Fixed the name BTW.

[Bridgeport II]

interested

[85rx-7gsl-se]

^Holy Crap...resize your sig, its huge :p

[stylEmon]

panspeed hood

djmitsu
phoenix7
stylEmon

[JKL Racing Engineering]

we will need more interest to get this GB going. :)

[Phoenix7]

hood.

[EJayCe996]

alright, then let's all make a decision, is it panspeed hood or SexyStyle widebody or both? :D

How about this GK hood?

http://kagotani.ocnk.net/data/kagotani/product/fcaero_bon.jpg

http://kagotani.ocnk.net/product-list/23

[Phoenix7]

http://2ndgenrx7.freeservers.com/bodykits/panspeed2.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7859/panspeedaerobonnetii15ku.jpg
http://www.rhdjapan.com/images/product/50295/Image/Normal/Image2.jpg
http://rotarycarclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1319&stc=1&d=1208999476
http://rotarycarclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1320&stc=1&d=1208999482

[SPiN Racing]

Not to derail at all but a suggestion for the widebody.

One of the reasons I am planning on doing my own CF widebody for my E-Prod car is because ALL of the front fenders I have seen taper down behind the front wheels.

In otherwords.. they are 25 or 30 MM wider at the top lip, but very quickly taper back to the stock body lines as they hit the mid point on the quarterpanel.

For example look at the Foresight kit on page one. The bottom half of the tire is exposed front and rear to the airstream.

[djmtsu]

I get ya!

Something like RX-Heaven's kit (the vert above) is an outstanding looking kit, but WAY too spendy to reproduce. Although it would be ideal due to the fact that the entire wheel and tire are within the fenders.

[Phoenix7]

Not to derail at all but a suggestion for the widebody.

One of the reasons I am planning on doing my own CF widebody for my E-Prod car is because ALL of the front fenders I have seen taper down behind the front wheels.

In otherwords.. they are 25 or 30 MM wider at the top lip, but very quickly taper back to the stock body lines as they hit the mid point on the quarterpanel.

For example look at the Foresight kit on page one. The bottom half of the tire is exposed front and rear to the airstream.:icon_tup: It's a valid point though.

It's a very valid point.

I get ya!

Something like RX-Heaven's kit (the vert above) is an outstanding looking kit, but WAY too spendy to reproduce. Although it would be ideal due to the fact that the entire wheel and tire are within the fenders.It's VERY wide but I do like it, something like that but milder would be great.

I think I can get away with stock fenders for a while but I would want the hood for sure.

[JKL Racing Engineering]

We can definitely make some changes to the design and make this happen as long as there are enough people interested. :)

[Phoenix7]

10? 20? 30?

Approximate price?

[Iox106]

Im inter in the hood for the right price.

[JKL Racing Engineering]

10? 20? 30?

Approximate price?

We usually require 15 people and we will have to know exactly which kit you guys are most interested in so we can estimate a price. Is it the foresight kit you guys want us to begin with or something else?

[Phoenix7]

I made a thread about it in the lounge. :dunno: I'd rather get a Hood first but majority rules, we'll see in a few days.

[EJayCe996]

No interest in the GK hood? Basically the only difference is it doesn't have a "turbo vent" which I never really cared for anyway. Its quite a bit cheaper (yen wise) to Panspeed hoods i've come across for sale in Japan.

[Phoenix7]

I don't know if the opening is large enough. I've seen one-too-many non-functional hoods out there and you can see where the opening sits according to the radiator and fan on the Panspeed.

If you can get more pics that show the whole hood I might change my mind.

The cheaper it is the less we'll have to pay for a copy!!!

[djmtsu]

The GK hood would work for me since a turbo vent is kinda....nevermind.

And if it is initially cheaper, than I am even more for it!!

[EJayCe996]

The quirk with most pictures of their hood (or cars rocking it) is of the older design where the vent was a little further back and it looks slightly more narrow.... maybe its the angle?

http://dp04094399.lolipop.jp/diary/img/20020309-1.jpg

http://dp04094399.lolipop.jp/diary/img/20080411-3.jpg

http://dp04094399.lolipop.jp/diary/img/20080407-1.jpg

http://dp04094399.lolipop.jp/diary/img/20080403-1.jpg

FYI these are all from Super Now's racing diary of their Time Attack FC.

[Phoenix7]

damn, great job! Now we know that it's CHEAPER and just as functional. Now what?

[EJayCe996]

Another thing is, if the opening isn't wide enough its because the end of the sloped section is below that inner "lip" of the front side of the vent. If JLK modded it by trimming away some of the slope so that its square the opening would more than likely be just as large.

[Phoenix7]

damn, well I like the GK hood due to price (which should decrease initial GB price, right?). How is everyone else feeling about it?

[JKL Racing Engineering]

I am not sure if I understanding which lip you are referring to but the slope of the front lip portion is actually there for a purpose. That slope is aerodynamically guiding more air flow into the opening. If we cut too much of it flat, there will be less air moving into the opening.

BTW, we are not very familiar with GK products, any more info on that brand?

[Juice]

I am not sure if I understanding which lip you are referring to but the slope of the front lip portion is actually there for a purpose. That slope is aerodynamically guiding more air flow into the opening. If we cut too much of it flat, there will be less air moving into the opening.Into the opening? You mean its helping pull air out of the opening. As the air moves over the lip it creates a low pressure zone above the hole which helps pull the hot air out of the engine bay.


Ditto on this too, lots of people want it, it should sell like hot cakes.
I tried with ShineAuto Project on Rx7club. Couldn't get enough people behind it. :(


Lots of people want it, but lots of people also dont got no moniez.
This would be sweet to see another vendor besides shine making cool bodykits and designs. Not that they do it bad, just i would like more options. FC's have TONS of options which i adore.
Yep, lotta dreamers. ShineAuto seems way to busy to pickup new products. JKL is coming to the rescue at the right time it seems.



That GK vent definitely looks smaller than the Pan Speed vent.

[Phoenix7]

I'd love the vent to be as large as the radiator to allow for ducting to maximize the heat expulsion.


Woot woot for big words!

[Juice]

The Panspeed vent is huge. I could probably tear down half the longblock and remove the radiator without ever opening the hood.

[JKL Racing Engineering]

Into the opening? You mean its helping pull air out of the opening. As the air moves over the lip it creates a low pressure zone above the hole which helps pull the hot air out of the engine bay.

Sorry for the confusion, I meant into the opening by creating air flow so that the pressure drops near the opening and forces the air under the hood to come out. :D My bad for not finishing my sentences. :)

Also, anyone got more info on GK? Thanks!

[EJayCe996]

I am not sure if I understanding which lip you are referring to but the slope of the front lip portion is actually there for a purpose. That slope is aerodynamically guiding more air flow into the opening. If we cut too much of it flat, there will be less air moving into the opening.

BTW, we are not very familiar with GK products, any more info on that brand?
I MADE A PICTAR!!! to describe what I mean.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s78/EJayCe996/HoodExample.jpg

The black dotted line is close to what the GK's vent is like. Panspeed's is setup similar to the red dotted line.

[Juice]

The Pan Speed setup is more like this:

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9605/panspeedprofilegr6.jpg

Perfect for sealing a nice Big Vmount to. http://smiliesftw.com/x/naughty.gif

[EJayCe996]

Well, EXCUUUUUSE the hell out of me for not liking how crappy my curves were and just straight lining everything :rofl:

[Iox106]

I would inter in either. What would be the price difference between the to hoods?

[Juice]

LoL! I just wanted to show how the vent kinda dips into the hood. I'm gonna try to stop by the body shop where my car is at today. I'll try to snap some pics of the hood if I can.

[Phoenix7]

Pics would be awesome.

[Juice]

Pics would be awesome.
Did one better in the other thread. :)
http://www.rotarycarclub.com/showthread.php?t=1861

[josh18_2k]

Ventless Widebody fender that IS NOT like ShineAutoProject's (I assume Dj feels the same way otherwise he would have gone with the SAP product.

plz elaborate! i'm looking into fenders ATM. i cant seem to find any good pics of shines fenders, or front bumper for that matter (im about to start a thread..)

[turbovert91]

How wide does the front fender have to be to put a 9" wheel in the front?

[Phoenix7]

plz elaborate! i'm looking into fenders ATM. i cant seem to find any good pics of shines fenders, or front bumper for that matter (im about to start a thread..)When SHINE had the fenders listed they were the kind that had vents. I can't find them in their ebay store anymore though.

[josh18_2k]

How wide does the front fender have to be to put a 9" wheel in the front?

wheels size doesnt matter. offset and tire size does.
what size tire are you looking for?
most people run 255's under wide FG fenders, altho you can fit them under stock fenders with a lot of camber and a good offset.
When SHINE had the fenders listed they were the kind that had vents. I can't find them in their ebay store anymore though.

i've seen a few cars with 30mm 'forsight' fenders from shine (no vents). but, i cant find any info online. i think you just have to call SAP to get any kind of real prdduct list.

[turbovert91]

wheels size doesnt matter. offset and tire size does.
what size tire are you looking for?
most people run 255's under wide FG fenders, altho you can fit them under stock fenders with a lot of camber and a good offset.

I would just like to run closer tire sizes in the front and rear.

I have 18x9 +38 275s in the rear and 18x8 +38 225s in front. I don't think I need a 275 in front, just wondering if I would need a 20 or 30mm wide fender to fit my current wheel/offset.