View Full Version : 2011 Last Year For Rx8 In USA
PortedRotorTuner
05-06-2010, 06:44 PM
Looks like we are going with out for a few years. Just a heads up to those
that were looking to buy new.
http://rotarynews.com/node/view/1090
rx865
05-06-2010, 06:58 PM
its a shame. It would be nice if we saw a mazdaspeed rx8 in 2011 to say goodbye. Hopefully the 16x will live up to mazda's hype and either an rx9 or a new rx7 based on the FD chasis will be coming by 2013. I mean the "throw back" style is popular with muscle cars (mustang, challenger) why not apply that to imports? I think if they came out with a new generation of rx7 they would sell very well, but rumor is mazda has the 16x finished and is just waiting for the economy to become healthy which isn't a bad strategy tbh.
These are all just rumors and speculation because mazda doesn't like to tell their supporters anything. Read the second comment under the article, the guy who posted that has the perfect idea for maybe a mazdaspeed or a track spec version. The s2k has the CR trim, why not give the rx8 a version similar to that? Maybe call it the RS (rotary spirit)? A nice turbo or supercharger, even better suspension, body kit, and some weight loss would be great.
djmtsu
05-07-2010, 06:50 AM
I read about the RX-8's demise a few days ago on Jalopnik. It made me sad. But, the truth is, they did not advertised or promote the RX-8 nearly enough. When the redesign came out, not a single commercial was made. How many friggin commercials do you see a day for the Mazda3??
ior a new rx7 based on the FD chassis will be coming by 2013.
Keep dreaming, they would not use the FD chassis. The RX-8/Miata suspension is the best out there for the price, so expect that variation.
Besides, the FD suspension is just a copy of the NA Miata :)
WE3RX7
05-07-2010, 06:58 AM
Yea - I caught wind of this a few weeks ago and was just waiting for the press release to confirm it. Its not all that bad though... 7 years was enough to "test the waters" to see if a market still existed. Also, the process of changing over production plants to the new 16x will take a bit of time compared to the 13b they've been producing for how many decades now?
I'm sure we'll see another rotary car from Mazda. I think we'll probably get one "traditional" model and that'll be the end... the rest of the focus will go into hybrid rotary technologies most likely.
Besides, with Audi now getting back into the rotary game too... who knows what will happen. If Mercedes catches wind of any possible niche market Audi creates, you'll be sure they'll dust off their old Wankel patents as well and start looking it. That'll be three manufacturers pushing rotary technology... that only means we get better stuff!!
Sorry... thats my rant...
lt1_fd3s
05-07-2010, 08:41 AM
Mazda will not bring back the RX-7 name, they wish to be viewed as a progressive company and want to move forward. They hold the opinion that if they "bring back" a car they discontinued, then it is like saying "we made a mistake in discontinuing this car..." and that isn't what Mazda wants. (sorry, i've long since lost the article I was reading about this...) That is pretty much how they are viewing Ford, Chevy and Chrysler...
reddozen
05-07-2010, 10:56 AM
I don't care what they call it so long as it's fast and rotary powered.
rx865
05-07-2010, 01:38 PM
I read about the RX-8's demise a few days ago on Jalopnik. It made me sad. But, the truth is, they did not advertised or promote the RX-8 nearly enough. When the redesign came out, not a single commercial was made. How many friggin commercials do you see a day for the Mazda3??
Keep dreaming, they would not use the FD chassis. The RX-8/Miata suspension is the best out there for the price, so expect that variation.
Besides, the FD suspension is just a copy of the NA Miata :)
i didn't mean to technically use the FD chasis, but to create a chasis that has hints to the FD. But as someone else already posted, they wont bring back the rx7 name, which i think is a good idea.
staticpat
05-07-2010, 02:02 PM
I don't understand why they would bring back the RX-7 name. As mentioned they want to be progressive. There is a reason there are RX-2s, RX-3s, RX-8s etc.
Also the RX-8 in the link made me realize how good looking 8s can be. Hopefully some sort of special edition will be even sexier.
Phoenix7
05-07-2010, 03:16 PM
why on earth wouldn't Mazda redesign a whole new chassis around the 16X? You all are tripping thinking it's going to use a chassis already in production.
Good bye RX8. Hello RX-pwneage.
2gslse
05-07-2010, 04:18 PM
Mazda is gonna be hush hush about everything because that is how they are but maybe we will get lucky and get some previews/info.
if anyone at mazda is listening bring us something to DGRR11 !!!
rx865
05-07-2010, 11:50 PM
Mazda is gonna be hush hush about everything because that is how they are but maybe we will get lucky and get some previews/info.
if anyone at mazda is listening bring us something to DGRR11 !!!
this. Isn't mazda actually going to sponsor DGRR next year? That would be a perfect time to shed some light on the 16x and new rotary car :)
2gslse
05-08-2010, 10:57 AM
Phil said mazda was onboard for next year maybe we should have him start planting the idea with someone at mazda usa that it would be a good way to get enthusiests real opinions and not the media (unless they are there too)
12arotary
05-11-2010, 05:54 PM
don't know if anyone has pointed this out but the rx8 ran for 8 years (once its 2011), longer than any rx7 specific gen and since they really didn't do any super major changes along the way like they did with the rx7 i'd say it did pretty good
rx865
05-12-2010, 10:55 AM
don't know if anyone has pointed this out but the rx8 ran for 8 years (once its 2011), longer than any rx7 specific gen and since they really didn't do any super major changes along the way like they did with the rx7 i'd say it did pretty good
I read that yesterday as well, I had never really compared the length of the life span to the rx7's generations. Most people when they think of the rx series they think of the built FD's and FC's, high powered drift cars, and how turbo's and rotaries go hand in hand. They think that because the rx8 wasn't a torque monster or had twin turbo's that it was a let down to the rx name. If they had driven this car, or was any kind of car enthusiast at all, they would realize that rx8's are a true driver's car. Its meant for twisties at high speeds and has an incredible stock suspension that can only get better with suspension mods and slight tweaking. People also complain about how hard it is to gain hp and tq from it unlike civics, 350z, g35, s2k etc but in a way that is a good thing. Rx8's are one of the best factory tuned cars on the market as well as one of the nicer cars if not the nicest car in its price range.
Chibana
05-17-2010, 01:49 PM
Gotta love the RX-8! I just hope that some RX car comes out to replace it. I'm concerned that the new 1.6L isn't going to be able to meet new emissions and fuel efficiency requirements around the world, at least not well enough for Mazda to produce a new RX that would have to be offset by other, cleaner and more efficient Mazdas.
djmtsu
05-17-2010, 01:57 PM
at least not well enough for Mazda to produce a new RX that would have to be offset by other, cleaner and more efficient Mazdas.
Considering the Ford Fiesta is essentially a Mazda2, and the fact that Mazda has a new diesel coming out, I think the offset is already in the works.
Lets do it!
reddozen
05-18-2010, 05:51 AM
Considering the Ford Fiesta is essentially a Mazda2, and the fact that Mazda has a new diesel coming out, I think the offset is already in the works.
Lets do it!
yea, those new sky diesels are supposed to get what? 40MPG?
MazdaMike
05-18-2010, 09:20 AM
According to the owner of my dealership (Mazda) the new RX is already out in Japan and we'll see it later on next year. I've also been reading articles non stop they're supposed to release and RX9 as the flagship and then another RX as the smaller sportier car. I've also heard from salesmen at work that by 2012 everything is gonna have a 16x in it or the option. The Mazda 5 (Premacy) in JDM land also has a 13B Hydrogen engine as well as its 2.3L or 2.0L. But the hydrogen powered vehicles had limited production.
djmtsu
05-18-2010, 10:01 AM
According to the owner of my dealership (Mazda) the new RX is already out in Japan and we'll see it later on next year.
Your buddy sure about that?
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_OFjbTkyhkOs/S_Ks2g8_kTI/AAAAAAAACMk/Zz7q0xlm0Xw/s800/mazda.jpg
I don't see anything RX except for the RX-8.
FerociousP
05-18-2010, 10:34 AM
I've also heard from salesmen at work that by 2012 everything is gonna have a 16x in it or the option.
That statement is full of fail.
Was this the same salesman that sold the handicapped woman a $60,000 Mazda6?
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2010/05/500x_sleezy_mazda_dealer.jpg
PortedRotorTuner
05-18-2010, 11:01 AM
Yeah, there is not any new rx's yet in Japan other than the Rx8. And they
may still make the Rx8 in Japan even though it is stopping here in 2011. As
they also did the 3rd gen Rx7 till 2002. There working on the 16x which
is still being developed. And the hydrogen rotary which Mazda has sold
some fleet cars to other companies in Japan so they can watch it closely.
But nothing new in production yet.
MazdaMike
05-18-2010, 02:19 PM
I thought I'd share speculation not for you guys to search up answers and criticize.
rx865
05-18-2010, 02:45 PM
I thought I'd share speculation not for you guys to search up answers and criticize.
You said those things in your previous post as if they are facts and now youre calling them speculations?
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FerociousP
05-18-2010, 03:15 PM
You said those things in your previous post as if they are facts and now youre calling them speculations?
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ditto.
I thought I'd share speculation not for you guys to search up answers and criticize.
If you understand anything about how the auto industry works and where it is heading you can see right through your now-so-called speculations. I and everyone else would rather hear hard facts than what people (especially Mazda dealers) think is going on. Its the same reason I don't watch the news anymore.
rx865
05-18-2010, 09:37 PM
^
This
Maybe (Im being really optimistic right now) if mazda decides to sponsor DGRR next year and could bring us some more information about the 16x or something for us to look for in the coming rotary generation
reddozen
05-19-2010, 07:34 AM
^
This
Maybe (Im being really optimistic right now) if mazda decides to sponsor DGRR next year and could bring us some more information about the 16x or something for us to look for in the coming rotary generation
hell, I'd be happy if they just brought in those display models they showed at the auto salon.
MazdaMike
05-19-2010, 09:18 AM
I was going on he said she said, how is that fact? I was optimistic and hoping for 2 new RXs but the sad reality is its probably not a fact. I had also mentioned that it was a salesmen who said everythings going to be rotary, what the hell do they know anyway? Except for bottomfeeding and scamming poor old retarded women. Now we can only dream but that would be stupid from Mazdas side, look what happened to them in the first place when they had a rotary (or option) for and in everything. Plus yeah they wan't to move forward, not re-release a discontinued car. Though it would be awesome..
As far as arguing over something that we have no control over and its still a ways away lets leave that for the "evil forum." Where all the arguing, fighting and retarded questions exist currently.
rx865
05-19-2010, 09:29 AM
I was going on he said she said, how is that fact? I was optimistic and hoping for 2 new RXs but the sad reality is its probably not a fact. I had also mentioned that it was a salesmen who said everythings going to be rotary, what the hell do they know anyway? Except for bottomfeeding and scamming poor old retarded women. Now we can only dream but that would be stupid from Mazdas side, look what happened to them in the first place when they had a rotary (or option) for and in everything. Plus yeah they wan't to move forward, not re-release a discontinued car. Though it would be awesome..
As far as arguing over something that we have no control over and its still a ways away lets leave that for the "evil forum." Where all the arguing, fighting and retarded questions exist currently.
I never said you told us they were facts, I simply said you presented your information as facts. If the salesman are such scumbags and untrustworthy then why did you present the information gathered from them at all?
PortedRotorTuner
05-19-2010, 12:44 PM
hey MazdaMike, no pun intended. Now we know what you meant. So lets leave
it at that. Its easy to be misread when typing words. Back to the subject at hand.
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