Not Starting, not flooded (maybe)

RotaryBC · 07-08-2016, 09:10 PM

Hello All,

I connected the battery turned it over for 5-7 seconds..nothing

after about 3 mins of this it started to putter then I smelled the gas so I stopped.

The motor didn't have any unusual noises.

I removed the air box

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7F...ew?usp=sharing

The oil is the new oil I put in it yesterday...what could that mean, besides flooding?

As you can see there is a lot of oil on the front of the engine, I did this close-up of the closest coil

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7F...ew?usp=sharing

Found service records in the glove box, let's hope some of his records got lost!

Looking at the records he replaced the plugs back in Jan 2015 between oil changes 131K and 141K. On the 141K service (148K total) it was noted:
“STARTING DIFFICULTIES”
“CUSTOMER AWARE”

Looking at the picture the coils are oem and I saw the blue&green tape on the wires.

I think the oil killed a coil or damaged a wire.

When I have more time to get dirty:

Continue to remove items to get to and remove the coils and wires
Clean them up
Test them
Then order new ones any way..

Read what JL1RX7 said about the mass air flow sensor and took these two pictures of the air box

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7...VdBckFxQXMxVEk

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7...UJ2QVA5ancxaGs

Bit of cleaning and maybe new air filter?

JL1RX7 · 07-09-2016, 06:09 AM

More than a bit of cleaning! Never seen that much oil up that high on the motor. Looks like they drenched those coils in oil. Replace them all, clean everything and see what you got. But from the sounds of it it's blown. You can use a cheapo compression tester to get ball park numbers.

Also be careful of what you read on eight club. Lots of good info on there. But lots of armchair bullshit with it. Follow the tech stuff on how to pull it apart. The rest is mostly opinions. So you generally get one piece of good info in a thread with rest either wrong or lies. It can be difficult to figure out which is which.

07-08-2016, 09:10 PM	#1
RotaryBC The Newbie Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Troy, Mi Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Hello All, I connected the battery turned it over for 5-7 seconds..nothing after about 3 mins of this it started to putter then I smelled the gas so I stopped. The motor didn't have any unusual noises. I removed the air box https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7F...ew?usp=sharing The oil is the new oil I put in it yesterday...what could that mean, besides flooding? As you can see there is a lot of oil on the front of the engine, I did this close-up of the closest coil https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7F...ew?usp=sharing Found service records in the glove box, let's hope some of his records got lost! Looking at the records he replaced the plugs back in Jan 2015 between oil changes 131K and 141K. On the 141K service (148K total) it was noted: “STARTING DIFFICULTIES” “CUSTOMER AWARE” Looking at the picture the coils are oem and I saw the blue&green tape on the wires. I think the oil killed a coil or damaged a wire. When I have more time to get dirty: Continue to remove items to get to and remove the coils and wires Clean them up Test them Then order new ones any way.. Read what JL1RX7 said about the mass air flow sensor and took these two pictures of the air box https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7...VdBckFxQXMxVEk https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7...UJ2QVA5ancxaGs Bit of cleaning and maybe new air filter? __________________ 2005 RX-8 Shinka 171 2005 RX-8 Shinka 1137

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07-09-2016, 06:09 AM	#2
JL1RX7 Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Front Royal, VA Posts: 487 Rep Power: 18	More than a bit of cleaning! Never seen that much oil up that high on the motor. Looks like they drenched those coils in oil. Replace them all, clean everything and see what you got. But from the sounds of it it's blown. You can use a cheapo compression tester to get ball park numbers. Also be careful of what you read on eight club. Lots of good info on there. But lots of armchair bullshit with it. Follow the tech stuff on how to pull it apart. The rest is mostly opinions. So you generally get one piece of good info in a thread with rest either wrong or lies. It can be difficult to figure out which is which.