17x9+20 with no stretch?

[josh18_2k]

i dont really understand what you're getting at in regards to me.
all i was really trying to say previously is that a front 17x9 +20 does in fact "fit" (technically) meaning that the wheel will never contact anything solid, other than a curb. tire fitment is a different discussion.
i also just dont understand why people get so uppity about other people's cars. i choose to run a certain setup, and thats my business. i put my information out there so other people can glean from it. its pretty much irrelevant to the slammed/flush crowd, and you'll never see them commenting on it.
if someone wants to do wide+stretch, thats their business. if they have questions, i'll still help them out as best as i know how. their choice of wheel/tire doesnt affect my life in any way so im not going to get mad about it.

in the case of ian, he's obviously not trying to set his car to maximize lateral acceleration. he stated up front he just wants to look cool (completely subjective!), while running skinny tires. ok. we all know there are tons of other people floating around who have the same goals. they can look at ian's post, and his pictures, and see just how his setup fits. if thats what they're looking for, then ian just made a contribution.
its the same reason people do all kinds of crap to cars- body kits, tint, etc. nothing to do with performance, its asthetic.

the only time i have a problem with all that is when i see slammed/stretched people saying its good for handling. thats when you'll see me start to argue. IMHO, those are the real idiots, not the ian types. "its on rails bro." - yah, those are called bumpstops.


the ONLY purpose of the 285 thing was to reference the fact that it has the same sidewall height as the skinny 17" tires these guys are stretching on the front, and to show that its impossobible for a front wheel to contact the fender.
and i dont 285 front for street tires, thats overkill imo. thats my autox setup. streets are 255/275