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Old 05-14-2009, 07:32 AM   #16
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...............................man I am losing motivation to even stay in the rotary scene. Never ending bullshit!






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Old 05-14-2009, 09:11 AM   #17
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Rotaries - only the strong survive.

Hang in there man. I can tell you from experience, mostly bad, expensive, and of the setback variety. It's worth it when they're done. Very few cars can make my pants tight when I drive them.
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I know I know. I got my new rear iron in today. Will post up some pics when I get home.

Pretty beefy new casting.
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Old 05-15-2009, 08:25 AM   #19
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So after a couple calls to some rotary performance shops and a little critical thinking I decided to order 3 new side seals as well.

I figured since I am putting a brand new iron on there is no reason to use the old side seals and prolong the break in time. The new seals will not have near as many imperfections and will break in the new iron faster.

I am still in the air over how long I should break in the new iron/seals. I am awaiting word from Kevin BUT I think I am gonna play it safe and go 1500 miles.

That is a shit load of city driving but it beats rushing it and popping the motor. At least I have the engine tuned for the most part and will only need to add a little more fuel on the top just for added safety until I see what this new port on the rear iron flows like.

Speaking of the port, I am going to send the bad iron and the new iron to Rotary Performance in Texas to match port since they were the orignal builders/porters of this motor.

I am a little reluctant leaving the engine torn apart for that time frame BUT I will have that SOB safety wired snug. I bet I use a whole spool of that shit.
I REALLY wish I could just send the new iron to Chris and have him do a "standard" street port but unfortunately they built this motor so long ago who knows if the port template has changed. It just isn't worth the risk of the new iron having a larger OR smaller port then the rest of the engine and risking a different AFR per rotor chamber because of air flow differences.

Pics up soon as soon as I move into my new house next weekend. It is amazing how much crap can pile up in your garage over time when building these cars. I am HORRIBLE at saving shit.
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Old 05-15-2009, 01:37 PM   #20
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That sucks. Don't give up. Your car is truely amazing.
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Thanks. I won't give up, I have too much shit specifically for this car. Would be a huge loss to my wallet too.

Kevin told me that break in is almost none existant on side seals. GREAT news!!
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Yeah I wouldn't worry too much about the mileage with regards to side seals bedding into that iron.

Biggest thing IMO with fresh items like irons and housings (or bearings) would be getting a few heat cycles into the part(s) before laying down the law.

Best of luck bro, we should have a rebuild race!
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Best of luck bro, we should have a rebuild race!
I would hope you win. You got to be damn fast at it now. lol
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Best of luck bro, we should have a rebuild race!


Good luck Murray. Most important thing with breakin, I have found anyway, is a few good heat cycles. You can do 1500 miles at once and they won't be broken it too well. A dozen heat cycles would be plenty I should think. Beautiful car, clean project, glad to see you're sticking with it

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Sorta, it's the I went to the dyno/comp test today and got 3 bounces of 113 on the front and 3 bounces @ 113 on the rear and one @ 88. So we think a side seal got stuck. We were going to dyno today but the convo went like this
So Dave, ya wanna strap her down and have some fun?
You're gonna break her if you do
Really? I've put ~2k+ miles since the overheat.
Yeah, but not on the dyno.
No, but really?
You want me to call Enterprise and reserve a car for you?
So we just hung around and shot the shit for a few hours.

So yeah, gonna be doing pretty much exactely what Murray is doing. Popping the rear plate, fixing what's bad, and reassembling. THEN go back to the dyno, up the boost, and the rev limit. Personally, it's the boost that I want, I kept working the sequentials on the trip home, my rotary lord those things spool like a bejeezus. Without paying attention I hit the boost cut ~2k in 5th. Boost cut is 14psi right now. SICK SICK SICK response.

So yeah Murray.... you game?
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Oh I am game! You might have me beat though. I have the wife hanging over my head with the death stare until we finish painting the inside of the new house. Two weeks and the games begin!!

Thanks for the compliments as well.
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I just realized... I have the same head unit as you, battery, FPR, and same rail set up... I can't tell for sure, but I may have the same (or similar) turbo as you as well.
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I just realized... I have the same head unit as you, battery, FPR, and same rail set up... I can't tell for sure, but I may have the same (or similar) turbo as you as well.
62-1 turbonetics. You my friend have good taste.
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Oh I am game! You might have me beat though. I have the wife hanging over my head with the death stare until we finish painting the inside of the new house. Two weeks and the games begin!!

Thanks for the compliments as well.
Hmmmm, well I just went auto-x'ing and realized that there are two things that I need - More RPM's and low end boost - sequentials. Can't get either until I get the motor rebuilt. Next event is June 7th, I'm hoping to make it.
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