Widebands

My5ABaby · 02-18-2011, 02:59 PM

I'm looking into getting a wideband/gauge. The options I've found thus far are:
AEM UEGO - Easy to use but only goes down to 11:1
Innovate LC-1 - Needs calibration often
NGK AFX - No info
PLX - No info
Zeitronix Zt-3 - No info

Any other thoughts? Suggestions?

I found this: http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/r...B_Shootout.pdf It's a bit outdated though.

Sharingan 19 · 02-18-2011, 03:48 PM

11:1 really isn't that impressive

Seems like interesting info (if somewhat biased). I have the innovative unit and I have I had no problems so far.

RICE RACING · 02-18-2011, 03:52 PM

The only one worth buying is the Neko AF700

I have it permanent mounted right of the back of my turbo!, not a problem, perfect readings, no BS excuses why it wont work etc etc, ~10,000km strong on the same sensor.

I made www.rhdjapan.com stock this, check them out for pricing etc, it is not cheap, but then again its not a toy or a piece of shit like the rest you short listed.

ALL THE BEST japan tuning GIANTS use Neko Corp AF instruments.

Force13b · 02-18-2011, 03:52 PM

The swing dial on the out side may say 11 but the screen itself goes down to 10:1

FerociousP · 02-18-2011, 04:34 PM

I use the Innovate LC-1 with no problems so far. I'm only mildly modified, not doing much logging, and use it as an indicator and a reference for not blowing the motor. If you aren't making big power and on a budget then you can get by with a "toy" O2 sensor that will be more than accurate enough for normal street use.

rx71king · 02-18-2011, 05:06 PM

i have been using for 3 year no problem and same 02 sensor http://www.fuelairspark.com/Products...er/default.asp and if you want you can run two 02 sensors just incase one goes bad.

vex · 02-18-2011, 05:42 PM

There's also Prosports wideband.

the spyder · 02-26-2011, 10:30 PM

LC1 is the standard it seems. However if I bought again, it would be the same Rice suggested.

vex · 02-26-2011, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the spyder

LC1 is the standard it seems. However if I bought again, it would be the same Rice suggested.

Just so you know Rice only referenced a Sensor (a sensor which costs close to $700.00 when last checked). You would still need a controller.

RICE RACING · 02-27-2011, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vex

Just so you know Rice only referenced a Sensor (a sensor which costs close to $700.00 when last checked). You would still need a controller.

A Neko AF700 is a complete unit, controller, display module, and individually chipped lab grade NTK sensor.

You can buy the sensor on its own, but you need to buy the AF700 unit as you cant use the sensor on its own cause it has its own EPROM chip you need to fit into the controller which is the calibration for the sensor (each and every one is tailor made).

Autronic sell a "lab grade" NTK sensor (though not chipped like the Neko) it's just a higher grade than the std L1H1 and is about $700 Au, this is the same as Motec will supply for a PLM if you get the shits with the inaccuracy and random failures of the Bosch LSU types they come with std.

Hope this clears it up?

chibikougan · 02-27-2011, 12:26 AM

I have used the PLX with no problems. The OLED display and daisy chain option for other gauges such as Oil Pressure, Temp, and Coolant Temp etc. Very neat options anyway.

RETed · 02-27-2011, 04:15 AM

Move from FC subsection to Rotary Tech subsection...

-Ted

vex · 02-27-2011, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

A Neko AF700 is a complete unit, controller, display module, and individually chipped lab grade NTK sensor.

You can buy the sensor on its own, but you need to buy the AF700 unit as you cant use the sensor on its own cause it has its own EPROM chip you need to fit into the controller which is the calibration for the sensor (each and every one is tailor made).

Autronic sell a "lab grade" NTK sensor (though not chipped like the Neko) it's just a higher grade than the std L1H1 and is about $700 Au, this is the same as Motec will supply for a PLM if you get the shits with the inaccuracy and random failures of the Bosch LSU types they come with std.

Hope this clears it up?

It does. I didn't see the controller, display, or anything else listed with it at the site you mentioned. Only sensor. Do you have any of the operating ranges it can sustain? Temperature, fuels, etc, etc.

RETed · 02-26-2011, 10:50 PM

Will be moving this to Rotary Tech soon...
I believe this is a more appropriate section.
Not quite FC specific...

-Ted

My5ABaby · 02-27-2011, 11:16 AM

Does anyone know if all the widebands listed thus far have dual outputs for gauges and aftermarket ECU?

02-18-2011, 02:59 PM	#1
My5ABaby Sigh..... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN iTrader: (5) Posts: 2,299 Rep Power: 8	Widebands I'm looking into getting a wideband/gauge. The options I've found thus far are: AEM UEGO - Easy to use but only goes down to 11:1 Innovate LC-1 - Needs calibration often NGK AFX - No info PLX - No info Zeitronix Zt-3 - No info Any other thoughts? Suggestions? I found this: http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/r...B_Shootout.pdf It's a bit outdated though. __________________ 1986 Sport: 132k miles, 5A (Sapphire Blue Metallic), Tokico Blues, Racing Beat Springs, Custom LED tailights (only S4 LED tails in the world), SSR Mark II, Racing Beat exhaust, S5 black interior, Rotary Resurrection rebuild at 120k miles Community Service Manual RotorWiki "Imagination costs nothing; we could build square locomotives or fly to Mars" - Felix Wankel Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present."

02-18-2011, 03:48 PM	#2
Sharingan 19 Rotary Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 iTrader: (0) Posts: 125 Rep Power: 4	11:1 really isn't that impressive Seems like interesting info (if somewhat biased). I have the innovative unit and I have I had no problems so far. Last edited by Sharingan 19; 02-18-2011 at 03:59 PM..

02-18-2011, 03:52 PM	#3
RICE RACING Don Mega Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Utopia iTrader: (0) Posts: 1,046 Rep Power: 6	The only one worth buying is the Neko AF700 I have it permanent mounted right of the back of my turbo!, not a problem, perfect readings, no BS excuses why it wont work etc etc, ~10,000km strong on the same sensor. I made www.rhdjapan.com stock this, check them out for pricing etc, it is not cheap, but then again its not a toy or a piece of shit like the rest you short listed. ALL THE BEST japan tuning GIANTS use Neko Corp AF instruments. __________________ http://www.riceracing.com.au RICESP > F40 > Zonda > ZR1 Water Injection Specialist "Can't be defeated!, don't know the word!, shoulder to shoulder!, we'll fight the world!, we can't be beaten!!!"

02-18-2011, 04:34 PM	#5
FerociousP I-had-a-bad-experience... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: M'boro iTrader: (2) Posts: 918 Rep Power: 6	I use the Innovate LC-1 with no problems so far. I'm only mildly modified, not doing much logging, and use it as an indicator and a reference for not blowing the motor. If you aren't making big power and on a budget then you can get by with a "toy" O2 sensor that will be more than accurate enough for normal street use. __________________ '90 Black TII vert w/ Sprint RE stock port/turbo Dyno Dynamics (242.6whp@5500rpm @8psi) and (250ftlbtq@4800rpm @13psi) '89 GTUs 6p TII SOLD, '87 sport SOLD, '79 SA stock SOLD '07 Mazda 6 5dr '91 B2600 4x4 w/ Rx-8 LSD SOLD

02-18-2011, 05:06 PM	#6
rx71king Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: queens ny iTrader: (0) Posts: 118 Rep Power: 4	i have been using for 3 year no problem and same 02 sensor http://www.fuelairspark.com/Products...er/default.asp and if you want you can run two 02 sensors just incase one goes bad. Last edited by rx71king; 02-27-2011 at 04:58 PM.. Reason: can't spell

02-18-2011, 03:52 PM	#4
Force13b cxxxx\|::::::::::::> Join Date: Nov 2009 iTrader: (1) Posts: 311 Rep Power: 4	The swing dial on the out side may say 11 but the screen itself goes down to 10:1

02-18-2011, 05:42 PM	#7
vex RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Influx. iTrader: (6) Posts: 2,097 Rep Power: 7	There's also Prosports wideband. __________________ The Official FC Radiator Thread My Project Thread: Cerberus CCVT Virginia Rotary Group

02-26-2011, 10:30 PM	#8
the spyder The Newbie Join Date: Jun 2008 iTrader: (1) Posts: 22 Rep Power: 0	LC1 is the standard it seems. However if I bought again, it would be the same Rice suggested.

02-27-2011, 04:15 AM	#12
RETed RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii USA iTrader: (0) Posts: 1,411 Rep Power: 7	Move from FC subsection to Rotary Tech subsection... -Ted __________________ reted_2000@yahoo.com Technical Advisor FC3S Pro http://fc3spro.com/

02-26-2011, 10:50 PM	#14
RETed RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii USA iTrader: (0) Posts: 1,411 Rep Power: 7	Will be moving this to Rotary Tech soon... I believe this is a more appropriate section. Not quite FC specific... -Ted __________________ reted_2000@yahoo.com Technical Advisor FC3S Pro http://fc3spro.com/

02-27-2011, 11:16 AM	#15
My5ABaby Sigh..... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN iTrader: (5) Posts: 2,299 Rep Power: 8	Does anyone know if all the widebands listed thus far have dual outputs for gauges and aftermarket ECU? __________________ 1986 Sport: 132k miles, 5A (Sapphire Blue Metallic), Tokico Blues, Racing Beat Springs, Custom LED tailights (only S4 LED tails in the world), SSR Mark II, Racing Beat exhaust, S5 black interior, Rotary Resurrection rebuild at 120k miles Community Service Manual RotorWiki "Imagination costs nothing; we could build square locomotives or fly to Mars" - Felix Wankel Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present."

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