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Garfinkles Motor Works
01-06-2009, 10:37 PM
Here is a new Coil Relocation Bracket made.
Let me know what you think......

Garfinkles Motor Works
01-06-2009, 11:11 PM
The bracket mounts the two stock trailing coils and the sec gen leading coil in a clear space below the steering shaft .The plug wires will be short and the coils are out of the heat .There should not be any trouble with water being a problem if all the connections are sealed .I have had my coils mounted low for many years and no shorting in the rain. (Thanks Chad for the pictures)

Herblenny
01-06-2009, 11:17 PM
Can't wait to get this!!

This is what I needed!!

fire85gslse
01-06-2009, 11:27 PM
Great solid mount, no chance to heat soak, allows you to keep your cruise control and like David said he has been running his coils in that spot for awhile now with no problems. A Win Win for everyone...........

jecr
01-06-2009, 11:43 PM
price?

Herblenny
01-07-2009, 07:52 AM
Another BIG PLUS is shorter wires!! I didn't like the other set up as wires were twice as long. This set up makes the wires shorter than stock :)

Garfinkles Motor Works
01-07-2009, 11:06 AM
I will give a price after I check material cost and the time to copy a master pattern .The first ones are made with alum plate ,I may do the rest with steel plate that will cost less . I will supply the bolts and spacers for the coils .I will modify the wiring if needed .

Brent
01-07-2009, 08:36 PM
David, Do you have to drill the holes to mount this?

AHarada
01-07-2009, 09:15 PM
Very nice work once again David.

Few questions:

1) Do the coil wires need to be extended or modified?

2) Could a stock 3rd gen leading coil be bolted up just as easily?

3) Would stock 3rd gen or any other off the shelf plug wires be appropriate?

fire85gslse
01-07-2009, 09:47 PM
I will try to answer this, but let David tell you for sure.

Brent, we did drill holes and placed a threaded insert in to allow us to be able to remove it as needed.

AHarada, the coil wires would be best if custom fitted to the exact length to have less wire needed.
I don't think the stock 3rd gen coil would bolt in the same holes but you could re drill it if you wanted, but why when the TII coil is alot better and cheap to pick up.
A set of wires where you can trim them to the popper lengths needed would be petter as not to have alot of extra wire.

Hope that helps.

Garfinkles Motor Works
01-08-2009, 11:34 AM
I can make the plate to use all stock coils but the sec gen coil is an upgrade and cost way less to replace .

charlies7
01-12-2009, 07:54 PM
Actually the wires I use have a resistivity of 40-50 ohms per foot. Wires that are measuring in 2.5 feet have a resistance of 100-125 ohms. Last time I checked that was LESS than stock..

But who looks into that stuff anyways...:001_005:

Nice method David, good to see another approach.


Another BIG PLUS is shorter wires!! I didn't like the other set up as wires were twice as long. This set up makes the wires shorter than stock :)

Garfinkles Motor Works
01-13-2009, 10:34 AM
The wires I make from the roll are MSD 8mm with 40 ohms per foot .

Herblenny
01-13-2009, 11:26 AM
I don't think the stock 3rd gen coil would bolt in the same holes but you could re drill it if you wanted, but why when the TII coil is alot better and cheap to pick up.

I'll be getting a set for 3rd gen coils. I'll post up when I get it.

My logic behind using 3rd gen coils are, I already have 10+ of these with no issues for my power range. Why spend more money if I don't have to??

Garfinkles Motor Works
01-14-2009, 09:04 PM
The master plate is made for the plate using the 2nd gen leading coil and the drilling jig is made .The master plate is made for the plate with all stock coils but the drilling jig is NOT made as of today . I will make the jig as soon as I can get the time .The plate with the sec gen coil has 10 theaded holes and four spacers ,the stock coil plate has 9 threaded holes and no spacers .Both plates have matching mounting holes ( 4) so the plates will interchange if needed . The plate for the sec gen coil is a small bit longer .If I made one plate that mounted both types of coils then there will need to be 13 threaded holes ,that will drive the cost up so that will not be considered . Plus the spacers .

Garfinkles Motor Works
01-14-2009, 09:09 PM
HERBLENNY has 5 to 10 of everything .And he knows everyone . How good is that !

AHarada
01-15-2009, 01:04 AM
David,

What is the pricing on these? And when will they be available for purchase?

Garfinkles Motor Works
01-15-2009, 05:25 AM
I will put a price on them after I make a few more and see how long it takes a materal cost and bolt cost .I have bought the taps and drills . I will try to do some this week end .

Garfinkles Motor Works
01-23-2009, 09:10 PM
I am going to make some for stock coils in the next few days then I will do some for the sec gen lead coil .I will supply SS bolts for the coils and I found a threaded insert to mount the plate to the car that is easy to use .The polly nuts I was using seem to be hard for some people to install .The price will be under $ 30 if I can get a good deal on the SS bolts and lock washers and inserts .I have the plates cut and the drill pattern made,and I bought the drills and taps yesterday .

AHarada
01-23-2009, 11:25 PM
Please put me in line for one with a stock 3rd gen coil. I'd like to get one as soon as they're ready.

fire85gslse
01-24-2009, 08:29 PM
The price will be under $ 30.


Man, that is a good deal. Easy way to relocate your coils, cheap and all the thought/labor has been done.

Garfinkles Motor Works
01-27-2009, 12:17 PM
The SS bolts for the sec gen coils will be here Wensday and the mounting threaded inserts will be here today .They will be ready to ship or pick up after Wensday .

Garfinkles Motor Works
01-27-2009, 12:26 PM
Pricing the all stock coil mount with SS coil bolts and mounting inserts,countersink allen mounting bolts, black oxide ,will be $30 plus shipping ,estimated . The plate for sec gen leading and stock trailing with SS coil mounting bolts and threaded mounting inserts and black oxide countersink allens will be$ 35 plus shipping . The two plates are mounted with the same pattern holes so you can unbolt and upgrade to sec gen coil with ease . The plates are 3/8 thick steel so the threads are strong and will last better than an alum plate .

Prometheus
01-29-2009, 07:23 PM
Sorry but I have to ask, does anything have to be deleted for this to work?

I'm still learning.

fire85gslse
01-29-2009, 07:29 PM
Sorry but I have to ask, does anything have to be deleted for this to work?

I'm still learning.

This basically takes your coils (stock mounted on top of your motor under you intake) and moves them to the frame rail.

Prometheus
01-30-2009, 03:09 PM
thanks for the reply, I know this relocates the coils.

The question was if anything is to be deleted (original equipment) for this to be installed.

Some relocation brackets take the place of the power steering/ ABS unit.

Wondering if this was along those same lines.

I'd like to keep all accessories.

Thanks!

~Jesse

Garfinkles Motor Works
01-30-2009, 10:44 PM
The plate is designed to bolt on the frame under the steering shaft with the coils facing upward as in Chads picts . There is nothing to move or delete .Your spark plug wires will need to be short .I make my wires using MSD wire and ends .I DO reuse the large Mazda boots . The MSD wire is 40 ohms per foot .

hsitko
02-01-2009, 01:12 AM
I'm interested in one of these. How much do the second gen leading coils go for? How much better are they? Will i need to re-tune at all? I have a twin power and stock coils on my fd. Thanks!

Garfinkles Motor Works
02-01-2009, 09:25 AM
I think a used 2nd gen coil is about $ 50 ,call the Junk yards and sellers on the forum ,Do noy pay for the Ing box the coil is bolted to , not needed for you .The coil is bigger and will last longer plus puts out more power . The coil for the na motor and the turbo motor is the same . The stock coil wire connector will be cut off your harness and two ring connectors put on .very simple .I will write install instructions soon and Phil may put up picts .

fire85gslse
02-01-2009, 12:11 PM
thanks for the reply, I know this relocates the coils.
The question was if anything is to be deleted (original equipment) for this to be installed.
Some relocation brackets take the place of the power steering/ ABS unit.
Wondering if this was along those same lines.
I'd like to keep all accessories.
Thanks!
~Jesse

That was the exact reason this one was designed, so people like myself can keep the cruise even those that coil relocation piece is a work of art and looks awesome in the car.
You could upgrade to a FC coil found between 20-80 dollars

Garfinkles Motor Works
02-01-2009, 02:55 PM
Up grade to FC coil for 20 to 80 dollars .

AHarada
02-24-2009, 08:34 PM
Recieved my bracket today. Details can be found here:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/showthread.php?p=73847#post73847

Herblenny
02-24-2009, 10:44 PM
I got this unit but haven't had time to install as I can't move my other car :)

But all that would be resolved after I go visit Garfinkle this friday! I'll post some pics.

jkstill
02-25-2009, 01:26 PM
Too bad I already installed my Charlies7 bracket...

AHarada
02-25-2009, 06:42 PM
So did I. I'm switching from Charles7's bracket to this one for a few reasons. The plug wires would pretty much be as short as they possibly could be, it opens up space in the corner of the engine bay, and it just looks less cluttered being out of sight.

Another thing is that this piece is much beefier and much higher quality IMO, and still costs a lot less. I'm not talking down Charlies7's bracket, I had no problems with it, I just prefer this one.

Herblenny
02-25-2009, 07:49 PM
So did I. I'm switching from Charles7's bracket to this one for a few reasons. The plug wires would pretty much be as short as they possibly could be, it opens up space in the corner of the engine bay, and it just looks less cluttered being out of sight.

Another thing is that this piece is much beefier and much higher quality IMO, and still costs a lot less. I'm not talking down Charlies7's bracket, I had no problems with it, I just prefer this one.

Same here.

I did consider Charlie7's. But did not like the idea of much longer wires. This was my personal decision about the longer wire issues and not the quality of is unit.

I would also say this about Garfinkle's bracket.. It might be bit tougher for someone with engine already in the engine bay as you would have to drill some holes. It would make it a much easier install for those who already have their engine out of the car.. Which will be my case..

fire85gslse
02-26-2009, 10:17 PM
I would also say this about Garfinkle's bracket.. It might be bit tougher for someone with engine already in the engine bay as you would have to drill some holes. It would make it a much easier install for those who already have their engine out of the car.. Which will be my case..


I would agree phil, but with a angle drill you could probably do this from under the car easy.
And your items over here are looking good!!!!! Might want mine to look the same :)
David, does awesome work!
I wish I had the time to get my car done. Working monday thru friday sucks! Wish i was back on shift work.
Chad

Herblenny
02-26-2009, 10:20 PM
I would agree phil, but with a angle drill you could probably do this from under the car easy.
And your items over here are looking good!!!!! Might want mine to look the same :)
Chad

Chad, are you going to be around tomorrow??

fire85gslse
02-26-2009, 10:35 PM
Chad, are you going to be around tomorrow??


unless things change I will be working. I was trying to get the day off but Chief is gone all next week also so i have to stay some what close incase needed.
Sometimes I wish I was just a fireman again riding backwards with no cares in the world.

I will be there all day saturday and hope sunday as well. Would love to be able to start it sunday.
When you coming up?
Chad

Herblenny
02-26-2009, 10:39 PM
Tomorrow night. Leaving early morning to goto Huntsville to check out Ray Wilson tuning..

Herblenny
03-18-2009, 08:40 AM
I still haven't had a chance installing this.. I'm hoping to start this weekend..

Garfinkles Motor Works
04-20-2009, 10:23 AM
The mounting hole placement is different on the plates that are being made to send out .A better and stronger arangement .

muibubbles
06-18-2009, 02:17 PM
have any of the brackets for the 3rd gen coils in stock? how would i place an order? how long should i expect it to take?

Garfinkles Motor Works
06-19-2009, 09:17 AM
Same day shipping when check comes .

AHarada
07-10-2009, 02:47 AM
Sorry for the delay Garfinkle.

Here are a few pix of my installation. I will do a more in depth write-up when time allows.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/x105t50ulx/downsized_0630091857.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/x105t50ulx/0630091857a.jpg

fire85gslse
07-10-2009, 08:09 AM
looks good. Only difference than mine as seem in the first pictures is that I put mine on a slight angle. I did not want water to sit on top of the coils and give it a chance to mess with my connectors.
This way gravity allows it to roll off.

Monkman33
09-21-2009, 01:58 PM
Are these still available? I have an FD with a T2 Coil.

Garfinkles Motor Works
09-23-2009, 08:41 PM
Yes I have several for stock coils and for stock trailing and sec gen leading .Ready to ship.

airboarder69
11-20-2009, 07:35 PM
I wanted to see if you still have any brackets for the third gen ('93 RX7 FD) stock T1 T2 coil packs. If so I'd love to get my hands on one. If you do still have one can you request a payment through paypal. My paypal ID is airboarder69@yahoo.com. Anyways let me know and when I get the payment request I'll approve it ASAP so you can ship it out. Thanks man.

-TC

neit_jnf
01-22-2010, 03:27 PM
I want one for stock FD coils! any available?

Garfinkles Motor Works
01-22-2010, 09:08 PM
Sorry they are sold out. I have two for using the 2nd gen leading coil . I will make more of both when I have time . I will PM you but it may be a few days as I am behind schedule .

Prodigy
04-19-2010, 02:32 PM
These do work with a RHD, except the spacing is quite limited due to a fluid hardline that runs right through that area, my Bracket is almost sitting on the subframe, and has a slight angle to it. (angled towards the rear of the car) its the only way it would fit.

But great build quality, Garfinkle makes some amazing products...


J.

Garfinkles Motor Works
04-23-2010, 08:36 AM
Coil relocation plates are ready to ship,both types .4-23-2010

AzEKnightz
11-10-2010, 01:45 PM
Still have the relocation plates for the FD LHD?

-AzEKnightz

Garfinkles Motor Works
11-13-2010, 07:31 AM
Yes I have some ready to ship .

FD3sAutobot
04-04-2011, 11:57 AM
Sent you a PM about these.

Garfinkles Motor Works
04-07-2011, 02:25 AM
Shipped it out 4-6-11 morning Thank You David

neit_jnf
04-07-2011, 05:38 PM
I got one FS with a 2nd gen coil. I'm not going to be using it, anyone want it?

LongRX7
04-08-2011, 06:04 PM
Do you make new plug wires for these too? and how much? :)

Garfinkles Motor Works
04-11-2011, 11:52 PM
I was making plug wires with 40 ohm MSD 8mm wire but I ran out .Sorry ,just recut your wires, either old or new.

FD3sAutobot
04-14-2011, 03:06 PM
Just found out my wife got the bracket in the mail this past Friday! Thanks again Garfinkle!

Garfinkles Motor Works
04-14-2011, 09:04 PM
You are welcome stay safe

Rawbz08
05-28-2011, 10:59 PM
David

Received mine today thank you...

where can i get some of those drop in anchors. and what size and pitch are they....

Thanks again

Garfinkles Motor Works
05-30-2011, 09:29 AM
Most auto parts stores .They are called Jack Nuts ,get 1/4 20 TPI .I can send you some if you need .

aoc007
06-09-2011, 07:08 PM
Can anyone tell me which wires on the stock harness go to which connectors on the FC Coil? I didn't receive any instructions. Thanks

Andy

Garfinkles Motor Works
06-10-2011, 01:51 AM
The wires on the black connector that was on the stock leading coil .Get two eyelets and cut the black connector off and put the eyelets on the wires and bolt down with star washers if you can find them .Easy as that. You are the first to ask. If you need more help feel free to call.

aoc007
06-10-2011, 01:55 AM
Oh I apologize, I know about that. But the polarity doesn't matter and I can connect them to either terminal on the coil? I thought the two pins were different on the stock leading.

Garfinkles Motor Works
06-10-2011, 02:20 AM
The wire color that is common to each coil goes to positive and the wire with green goes to neg